I never back up what I hear with maths.I believe is the wrong science to do that.But I would be interrested to know what maths you are using when you hear,or is it that you do the maths first so that you don't waste your time in hearing?
I agree. I can not remember the last time I pulled out a slide rule during a music session 🙂
As a cable, is essentially a filter, and we have fairly good knowledge as to the why's and howcome's of L, C and R, math is applicable to this subject.
R is insignificant, unless taken to extremes. So is C, which leaves us with L.
Depending how unfortunate the cable construction is, even that makes no significant effect below 17KHz, and most of us can't hear anything above 17KHz, so again it drowns in the big picture.
Naturally it is possible to make a cable, that influences the spectrum, also low enough for us to hear it. If we can detect it ? No, I doubt it.
Fortunately any reasonable cable will make no difference below 17KHz, so I won't bother backing up if one can hear a badly inductive cable.
Magura 🙂
Doubt all you want. That does not make you right either. It is just your opinion.
Most like also not needed, as somebody else have been pushing the buttons of their calculator, before the product has reached your stereo.
Magura 🙂
This has nothing to do with my opinion, but is based on facts. The only place I put my opinion into this, was regarding a mis-constructed cable, which is malfunctioning anyway, so should be of no interest to anybody.
If a cable makes any significant influence to the signal, below 17KHz, there is something wrong with it.
Magura 🙂
I never knocked the engineering to achieve great sound. All that I am saying is that almost always the person pushing those buttons, knows where he is going with the design and also understand that component choices effect the final product.
I never said that they were all great designs did I. I only said that it is a synergy that has to be reached by using those cables that allow a system to be its best. If that is hard to understand, I invite you to attend some serious listen sessions where cabling makes changes in the system and not always for the better. It is not an exact science yet. We need those of you that have the know how to find out the reasons why, rather than stand behind science as we know know it.
So, you want to say that you know of other effects than the L, R and C ?
If so, I suggest you apply for the Nobel prize.
If not the effect of a cable is fairly easily calculated.
Magura 🙂
No, that's right 🙂
But a cable design will have to be pretty far off the mark, for a man at the age of 45 to hear it.
Magura 🙂
Well I am 52 and I still know what I hear. Time will only take away the extremes, but thankfully most of the music falls well in between the extremes.
Where does that fit into the discussion?
I simply stated that Curly being relatively immune to math in this case, was actually without a need for calculating anything, as it had already been done.
Magura 🙂
So,all cables that make a difference are doing it for the worse,because they are badly designed? It sounds like you believe that many cable designers know nothing about LCR.
This is very true, and works to our benefit actually.
But then why do you not take advantage of it, instead of worrying about the extremes you can't hear anyway?
Magura 🙂
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