Shaan i'm waiting your Poorman's VSSA Peecebee 😀
LC don't worry.. none of our poorman handmade board can beat yours but we still can hear this little big amp sing 🙂
LC don't worry.. none of our poorman handmade board can beat yours but we still can hear this little big amp sing 🙂
I really agree. Just stick to the design on the part that is hard to get is probably discourage the builders. Another issue might be serviceability, even if we can find the part for the first build, because of unforeseen issues if this part fails people don't know what to do with this board. If its not too hard, just adding the option 2sk/2sj parts encourage more people of jump in.
I dissagree here, the same can be said for an amp having LME49830 voltage driver, exotic part hardly replacable when service is needed.
Look from another perspective, ALF mosfet is very good for audio purposes, even more than other laterals, which are BTW to be honest also not very easy to find/buy. But here we have, all of us audio fans, great opportunity to order and keep ALFETs on the market. Best thing is, it is purely original part, genuine lateral mosfet made according tight specs, not made in some questionable production lines. So I see this as a good way to support producer to invest and to make fine parts for us in the future.
Look from another perspective, ALF mosfet is very good for audio purposes, even more than other laterals, which are BTW to be honest also not very easy to find/buy. But here we have, all of us audio fans, great opportunity to order and keep ALFETs on the market. Best thing is, it is purely original part, genuine lateral mosfet made according tight specs, not made in some questionable production lines. So I see this as a good way to support producer to invest and to make fine parts for us in the future.
Include a couple of spares in the kit no matter if it bumps up the price. Its an amp and few amps will inevitably blow at a point and should be serviceable. Its what I would have done in that case.
I can speak in favor of the alfet laterals, they are superb mosfets and I think the dual part is very interesting. I have a headphone amp planned with it. as mentioned, just buy a spare or 2. these devices are actually very rugged as well.
tghat being said, while its a good idea to support the ALFET parts, you would simply be ensuring that these particular parts are continued including linear audio parts in general (as opposed to switching). but SEMELAB is pretty unlikely to ever go out of business, bloody huge company
tghat being said, while its a good idea to support the ALFET parts, you would simply be ensuring that these particular parts are continued including linear audio parts in general (as opposed to switching). but SEMELAB is pretty unlikely to ever go out of business, bloody huge company
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I dissagree here, the same can be said for an amp having LME49830 voltage driver, exotic part hardly replacable when service is needed.
Look from another perspective, ALF mosfet is very good for audio purposes, even more than other laterals, which are BTW to be honest also not very easy to find/buy. But here we have, all of us audio fans, great opportunity to order and keep ALFETs on the market. Best thing is, it is purely original part, genuine lateral mosfet made according tight specs, not made in some questionable production lines. So I see this as a good way to support producer to invest and to make fine parts for us in the future.
Only difference here is you cannot replace/substitute LME49830 with any other part, but here we can atleast substitute ALF with 2sk/2sj probably with a bit of compromise in performance.
honestly, why must so many people resist SMD? its easier to build, easier to rework, easier to make your own PCBs and higher performance.
whats not to like?
whats not to like?
better get over that quick if you are just starting before you let it turn into a big irrational thing too like so many do. Most are convinced its going to be much harder than it actually is.
sure some SMD stuff simply isnt hand solderable, but thats not whats under discussion. just get some good tweezers and if need be (if the eyes are getting a bit past their prime) get a 4x magnifier; it'll serve you well, because SMD will get more and more dominant and more difficult to avoid.
its not just to save money, the lowest noise BJTs available are afaik SMD, the lowest noise jfets available (BF862) are SMD, the highest performance resistors are SMD (ASMP SMD zfoils) the highest performance decoupling caps are SMD etc etc. small size and very low inductance is a huge win for audio parts
easy rework is not to be discounted for a beginner either.
sure some SMD stuff simply isnt hand solderable, but thats not whats under discussion. just get some good tweezers and if need be (if the eyes are getting a bit past their prime) get a 4x magnifier; it'll serve you well, because SMD will get more and more dominant and more difficult to avoid.
its not just to save money, the lowest noise BJTs available are afaik SMD, the lowest noise jfets available (BF862) are SMD, the highest performance resistors are SMD (ASMP SMD zfoils) the highest performance decoupling caps are SMD etc etc. small size and very low inductance is a huge win for audio parts
easy rework is not to be discounted for a beginner either.
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Hi guys
Let me be clear, VSSA is among simplest most capable and good sounding little discrete amps ever. If possible use exact parts from sch post #301, for that is what I guarantee it will pleased each and everyone of you. And please, less talk more build is my advice, no regrets.
P.S. I assembled SSA (all possible variants), TSSA (prototype), CSA (final PCB), VSSA (all possible variants) and to some sceptics, all these are stable reliable builts. 😉
Hi Lazy Cat. How is the SQ compared with the Hypex Ncore NC400 + SMPS600 monoblocks that you built in October 2012?
Hi qusp
Agree with every word you've written, especially regarding quality of ALFETs. SMD parts are great since both sides of PCB are equal nowadays, so suddenly we have double space available to place parts and the tracks-layout is more than just optimal.
Agree with every word you've written, especially regarding quality of ALFETs. SMD parts are great since both sides of PCB are equal nowadays, so suddenly we have double space available to place parts and the tracks-layout is more than just optimal.
As it is hard to get comments on this subject by L.C. ;-), he said for the first SSA that it was same signature, with suble differences, some in advantages for one, some for the other. Once CSS added, that it was a class upper, and for VSSA, that it is the best sounding amp he has ever build.
It is simply more transparent, deeper insight both in soundstage imaging as well as in details. Bass is more controlled, better defined and the hights are more natural sounding, revealing more resolution, differentiating recordings more clearly. No brainer, music only, so better in all respect. It is maybe bizzare info for some looking solely into material world facts, but that's the fact and six transistors only in VSSA works like charm.
Exactly Esperado, good memory.
SSA was not better, nor NC400, quality parameters were equally devided among both, but with VSSA here's no doubt at all, clear winner.
So it appears that Gaborbela's statement that the amp he built ( 20 year old design ) was the best he has ever heard,appears to be validated. The VSSA is basically the same amp.
Would be interesting to see how the old one was laid out . Today's implementation could possibly improve on the old design. One will have to try them out to see if there is any audible improvement over the older simplistic design. Another DIY challenge !😉
Guys, no worries, me diligently counting VSSA PCB orders and soon it will come to the phase when I will need firm confirmations with addresses to send an envelopes to you. This will be PM info only of course. 😉
They're not the same, here we have CCS supplying input bias current plus ALF mosfet plus special layout, huge differences speaking of SQ.