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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mar del Plata, a BIG seasonal getaway city, can see the Ocean from our residence.
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I'm on my way toward building my first tube amp & the most straightforward set-up would be using an autotransformer. Down here I can get a 220-110 at 300W for some $15 USD(60 Pesos) With a core of 5" by 5" by 2 1/2"....
Just how unsafe are these transformers & am I commiting the ultimate sin here by not using a "true" transformer....am I about to be censured? Perhaps I could fuse it three ways to Sunday! Just to throw gas on the fire the grounds here are a hit & miss affair. Household wiring here is shoddy to say the least! __________________________________________________ _____Rick..... |
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Californication
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Gas on the fire is a good enough analogy
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I would recommend a proper step-down isolation XFMR. In-fact any time I use an auto transformer it's paired with an oversized isolation XFMER. EDIT>A Fuse or more than one especially is not a panacea for shocking hazard protection.
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Madrid
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When I started building tube amps I once used an autotransformer. It gave me many shocks, but I only took it apart when the SOB blew up my expensive DAC. Not recommended.
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Santa Fe, Argentina
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Richard, maybe you can look for a 45/48V secondary and use a voltage doubler
(PSU designer says it can be done)
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Canandaigua, NY USA
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An autotransformer is about the same thing as connecting a wire directly from your circuit to the wall outlet. It has zero isolation. Don't do it. An autotransformer doesn't need quite as large a core (not sure why), so is often cheaper. Is there any part of "Don't do it" that needs additional clarification? Did I mention not to do this? We'd like you to keep posting and the internet connection from six feet under is really bad.
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Santa Fe, Argentina
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Lord of the Sparks!
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Plainsboro, NJ
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Richard,
If you like life, you'll heed the other posters and acquire a proper power trafo. Depending on the B+ draw, either a Triad N-68X (50 VA) or a Triad N-77U (100 VA) will get the job done for you, SAFELY. Both of those isolation trafos have dual primaries, a "115" V. secondary, and they are inexpensive.
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Santa Fe, Argentina
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The best solution are the Triad xformers (I'm using these), but if You are by no means able to access to imported material, a couple of 220/12V cheap xformers, tied back to back, can do the trick. When feeded trough the step down autoformer ( this one rigorously outboard), You'll get half the socket voltage, and a safe chassis. I've just done this, this morning, to be sure that it works.
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Alps:Tube amp designs over 150W, SMPS guru.
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Simply put, engineering wise it isn't the done thing and contravenes a raft of IEEE regulations.. In many domestic European locations one often finds there isn't a neutral, but two live phases and earth. Don't blow ones chances. richy |
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Don't do it, a funeral costs more than an insulation transformer!
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