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Old 14th February 2013, 01:53 AM   #1
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Default Alpine Type S is your Value Leader.

Over on diyma I crunched the numbers to figure out which drivers move the most air for the least money:

Bass Race 2013 - DIYMA Car Audio Forum

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Based on that data, I believe the Alpine Type S 15" woofer is currently the 'value leader.' I base this statement on the following:

1) Making bass is all about moving air
2) The SWS-15D2 can move over a liter of air, and can be delivered to your door for $129
3) To put that in perspective, a prosound driver like the 18Sound 18NLW9600 can move 50% more air, but costs more than five times as much

There are likely a handful of woofers that can move more air for less money, but the ones that can don't have a flat BL curve. (For instance, you can almost buy *three* Pyle PPA15s for the cost of ONE Alpine, but the Alpine has more than twice the displacement, and a more advanced motor too.)

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I dunno Patrick,
SI HT series is looking good these days...
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Old 14th February 2013, 02:47 AM   #3
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No wonder people were doing builds of 12 Stereo Integrity 18" at a time. They are only $200 each. Nice.

Pat is the motor on the alpine 15" strong enough for horn loading?

I know the cone on my 18" Dayton ref sure is strong enough, but with all that mass plus horn loading I think the driver might choke through its stroke when really pushed.

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Old 14th February 2013, 02:58 AM   #4
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I dunno Patrick,
SI HT series is looking good these days...
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Nice find! We have a new winner. The SI 15" exceeds the Pyle for 'displacement per dollar.'

I'd still opt for the Alpine - it has a flatter BL curve - but the SI does indeed provide more output per dollar.

If anyone wants to put their data into the spreadsheet, drop me a line and I'll share it with you.

(I didn't count the SI 18" for the same reason I didn't count the Mach 5 drivers - they're not available.)

Here's where it stands currently:

#1 - Stereo Integrity - 10.64 millileters of displacement per dollar
#2 - Pyle PPA-15 - 9.6ml per dollar
#3 - Alpine SWS-15D2 - 8.99 ml per dollar (and the first in the top 3 with a flat BL curve)

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Old 14th February 2013, 03:26 AM   #5
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Why are the SI drivers not available? People have done multiple builds on HTS.

And I just saw there is a pre order price of $162 for the 18". That's nuts!
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Old 14th February 2013, 03:43 AM   #6
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Why are the SI drivers not available? People have done multiple builds on HTS.

And I just saw there is a pre order price of $162 for the 18". That's nuts!
According to their web site:

"This is a pre-order. ETA is four months from 02/01/2013. Price will increase to $175 after 03/2013 for the remainder of pre-order."
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Why are the SI drivers not available? People have done multiple builds on HTS.

And I just saw there is a pre order price of $162 for the 18". That's nuts!
Semi rhetorical answer, read the phrases of your post in reverse
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Old 14th February 2013, 01:11 PM   #8
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LoL guess they had a supply issue couldn't keep up with demand, or ran a very small batch of them
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Old 9th March 2013, 02:17 AM   #9
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I dunno Patrick,
SI HT series is looking good these days...
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Patrick did you plug in the numbers for the 18 on the Database site? or the 15 from SI's site? and the 15 is available just the 18 is pre order/back order
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Old 4th June 2013, 07:01 AM   #10
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The winner, by a long shot, is the Polk MM1540, which Crutchfield recently slashed the price on.

Polk Audio MM1540 Mobile Monitor Series 15" subwoofer at Crutchfield.com

I'm calculating 23mL/$ with an Sd of 829 and an xmax of 25mm.

I've been using these Polk MM subs for a variety of applications over the years, and they are incredible. I'm always surprised that they're never mentioned anywhere in forums.

In chronological order I've built a 12" sealed for my car, 8" sealed for my dad's car, a pair of 15" LLTs for a friend's home theater (~7ft^3 each), and a 15" ported for my home theater (~3.5ft^3).

I'd like to try them in a tapped horn soon.
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