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Old 15th November 2010, 10:02 PM   #221
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The Reception Rooms: The Gardens of Houston, Texas

Here's a link to the ballroom's website, I was in the Grande Ballroom, my DJ Friend was in the Garden Room...

If you look at the pictures at the top of the page, the one showing a fountain, you can see the room I was in is on the right and the room he was in is on the left... There is about a 10' wide hallway in between the two rooms...
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Old 15th November 2010, 11:53 PM   #222
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When the dance floor was full (about 100-150 people) I walked to the other side of the dance floor to hear how everything sounded...

I feel the EV's Lost a little umph but, surprisingly I felt the subs gained some... I could feel the bass through all those people dancing... It may have been the song, it may have been me... but I was surprised...

I mean, these are 4 EV's running at approximately 1,200 watts a piece with 2" compression drivers on them!!!
makes perfect sense.... subs aren't the only type of speaker to suffer from power compression. Coil heats up, spl goes down. 98db efficiency tops, 104db efficiency subs, more power going into tops vs going into subs -- the tops suffer more power compression. It's that efficiency that gets you to 1am.

Well, that, and people absorb a lot of high end, and bass kinda goes right through...

Glad you are happy with them, that puts a smile on my face.
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Old 16th November 2010, 06:23 AM   #223
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Wow, sounds very nice fhperez! .. Does the 12mm box feel rugged enough for alot af mobile use? I ask since i have allways been told that subs should be made of 18mm to be solid enough for alot af moving around.

Jbell:
I'm just looking through the cutsheet and everything, but there is something that confuses me. I think you can help me out.

On the cutsheet, there is no shown boards for bracing (from the back to the bottom and top, as i can see on your building pics), but there is a 2,5" board, witch according to the design sketch, should be used as a reflector in the back-upper corner.
Now, all i can think is, that instead of reflector, you have used the 2,5" for the bracing? - but then i look at your picture (post #54), with all the wood has been cut, and there is both the 2,5" board and another called "brace".

I hope you understand what i'm trying to ask you

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Now i see, that the 2,5" reflector board has just "moved" from the back-upper corner, to sit between the 11" and the 13,5" board.
Then i just need to know where you got that board for bracing from? I just can't figure it out

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Old 16th November 2010, 06:54 AM   #224
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Chaps: I'm thinking of building these as well and just scratched by head about that 2.5" piece now that you mentioned it. The 2.5" piece in the cut sheet is 48" long, 21" of it will be the reflector, the rest can be used for bracing.
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Old 16th November 2010, 07:28 AM   #225
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Chaps: I'm thinking of building these as well and just scratched by head about that 2.5" piece now that you mentioned it. The 2.5" piece in the cut sheet is 48" long, 21" of it will be the reflector, the rest can be used for bracing.
Ahh, well spotted! .. I knew i had overlooked something
Thanks!
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Old 16th November 2010, 04:57 PM   #226
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Wow, sounds very nice fhperez! .. Does the 12mm box feel rugged enough for alot af mobile use? I ask since i have allways been told that subs should be made of 18mm to be solid enough for alot af moving around.
I don't know, it's not heavy, and since they are white, I have to take super extra care of them... They feel good enough to me to resist the loading and unloading...
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Old 20th November 2010, 05:45 AM   #227
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Quick Question... If we were to make these to 22", 23", maybe even 24 inches internally, for me, who will be making maybe 2 or 4 and be happy with them for a 'long' time, then I could reach levels of 40hz with 1 box, or does with have to be at 21" for this design to work?

Having Said that, if I do build two more, tuned to 40hz, a wider version, could I use all 4 together, or would you advice against that?
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Old 20th November 2010, 08:08 PM   #228
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Jbell

Quick Question... If we were to make these to 22", 23", maybe even 24 inches internally, for me, who will be making maybe 2 or 4 and be happy with them for a 'long' time, then I could reach levels of 40hz with 1 box, or does with have to be at 21" for this design to work?

Having Said that, if I do build two more, tuned to 40hz, a wider version, could I use all 4 together, or would you advice against that?
Making them wider doesn't make them play lower. If you want lower, more cabinets accomplishes that. (to a point)

This means that for small gigs, bringing 2 or more is still advised even if you don't need the spl.

If you really want a lower design, and you don't care about fitting it out of a single sheet, I can mod it to make it play a little lower.. Keep in mind loud and low are the 2 players on the see-saw. As one goes up, the other goes down.

Here's the idea of what would be needed to make it actually go lower. (warning -- there is NO hornresp or other thought put into this, it's just a depiction of what would be needed to make the horn path longer, and therefore play lower)
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Old 22nd November 2010, 12:45 PM   #229
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Jim; How would the LAB15 work in this box? Andy
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Old 22nd November 2010, 01:51 PM   #230
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Jim; How would the LAB15 work in this box? Andy
not as well as the 3015lf....
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