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By going to the next level (full dynamic matching), some orders of magnitude improvement in performance would be made possible. Next installment perhaps?
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PS: in practice in this case it will be even more tolerant: any spread will be diluted over 8 junction voltages, and will primarily result in an offset voltage (moderate) and ultimately in even order distortion.
The topology itself with its very high loop gain is quite touchy, but that's another story. It is manageable though, with normal precautions
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It is possible to combine this buffer with class AC.
This allows pure class A operation up to 4~5W, and a seamless and distortionless transition towards higher levels, contrary to class AB where the increased width of class A operation costs a higher distortion in the transition zone (compared to optimally biased class AB). The end result is an even better linearity, in the 10ppb range. This is for the output stage alone. If it is included in GNFB loop (which is perfectly possible thanks to the low phase shift and wide bandwidth) with a matching VAS, a further 20 to 40dB is achievable, bringing the overall THD to vanishingly low levels.
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Quite spectacular numbers , Elvee...
What is the difference if real current sources are used.?.. |
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But degradation is a certainty, at least if they are used regularly, ie trying to make them as perfect as possible to mimic spice sources. There are other options though: instead of seeing them as liabilities, they can be made to contribute actively to the overall linearity. Unigabuf is an example of such a scheme. I have already explored some of these, in sim and even in reality, and they look promising. In sim at least: the reality is for the moment inaccessible with my old ST1700, even augmented with subtraction techniques, additional filters plus FT with a sound card. I can just test the functionality of the circuits, not their actual perfomance. That has been another of my axes of research for some years now: coherent measurement of THD buried in a large negative S/N ratio, because virtual constructions do have some appeal, but in the end we have to find ways of making sure they are not simply pipe dreams. That may in fact be the most difficult part of the job, and at this kind of level, I am not even sure the Ohm's law really holds true: it is based on a statistical assumption of an excessively large number of slow charge carriers in a conductor, but under the ppb level, some early effects of saturation could begin to show in ordinary resistors and even conductors. Anyway, simulation is the first step: something not working in sim is very unlikely to work in reality. The opposite is much more common.
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On a practical level I very much like this approach as I believe reasonable device matching is possible for reasonable cost. It allows the heat to be dissipated by more devices, spread over a larger area of heatsink. It reduces the variation in current through each output device for the same power and load impedance compared with a single output pair. This reduces the distortion. A downside is increased drive requirements. Roender used a CFP driver in his implementation of this approach (IIRC he had about 2W in Class A before transition to Class B).
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I agree that a fully automatic bias really is the way to go, but short of that, class AC is already a step in the right direction.
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Here it is, somewhat rationalized, and with real current sources.
The sources are crude and minimalist, but active. This allows a further improvement in linearity, and also gives an opportunity to compensate for the poor complementary of the output pairs. The class AC version could also benefit from such an improvement.
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And here is the AC version:
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can you post the .asc file for us to play with ?
Funny how it reminds me of the KRILL amplifier by Steven Dunlap.
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