An Exotic ClassA Amplifier (never seen before).

ontoaba · 4th February 2011, 01:06 PM

I got this picture while trying to get very high efficiency classA.
Just sharing some fun.

jcx · 02:19 PM

"non-switching" Class AB has been around for a while now - along with those who want to claim they've invented it and to "brand" it as "Class A"

I think most designers would really expect "Class A" to mean that each of the output devices contribute nearly linearly to output over the full cycle

the mere fact that you've not turned off a output Q doesn't change the fact that you get a nonlinear output gm slope change - the more localized, "sharper" you change the current slope in the output devices the higher order the introduced nonlinearity

New Class A, Super-A, Non-Switching : need a revival ?

you should be able to pull up ~100 threads with searches of Tanaka, Pass (non)switching, sliding bias

Bigun · 4th February 2011, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontoaba

Just sharing some fun.

Looks amazing, I think this needs a new name, maybe call it Class B ?

ontoaba · 4th February 2011, 09:36 PM

Umm.. but it is fixed biased, at around 5A not a variable biased amplifier, and it still draw 5A when idle. This amount of current is double of normal push pull classA that only need 2.5A bias for equal output power.
No one using this one because it need twice idle current compared to normal classA. They love their power and save them.

Bigun · 5th February 2011, 01:04 AM

yes, but regular Class B doesn't provide enough heat, it's almost useless at this time of the year in Canada. Your new low efficiency Class B with super high idle current helps a lot and reduces cross over distortion too. I think you have a winner on your hands.

Ian Finch · 5th February 2011, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigun

I think you have a winner on your hands.

ontoaba · 5th February 2011, 05:25 AM

The first picture, 5A dissipated only from 1.5V

With conventional classA it need 3V supply and 8A idle current for best result, I am not in canada, so I reduce the power wasted as low as possible, up to 0.5V supply used.
When supply less than 2V classB-like classA has better linearity than normal classA. I am still investigate it

I attached the result of common classA in 1.5V and 3V with 8A bias.
See US pat#4115739 for detail.

ontoaba · 5th February 2011, 06:53 AM

Another result.
OOps... class AB is the worst, that is why they using error corrections.

ontoaba · 10th February 2011, 08:59 AM

This series amlpifier is very old and ever produced as classA+, and I see that nowadays classA is still HOT like what it should be. May be something wrong with this series connection or something else. I am interesting to try one with little differences, classB input is now from output of classA. With this quick tracker:
FAST and SIMPLE driver for HEXFETS (linear use).

Reference:

1.AES Preprint no. 1382 (N-5) "High Efficiency Class A Audio Power Amplifier"
AES E-Library: High Efficiency Class A Audio Power Amplifier (Class A+ Amplifier)
2."POWER AMPLIFIER" US 4,115,739
Power amplifier - Patent 4115739

4th February 2011, 02:03 PM	#2
jcx diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: ..	"non-switching" Class AB has been around for a while now - along with those who want to claim they've invented it and to "brand" it as "Class A" I think most designers would really expect "Class A" to mean that each of the output devices contribute nearly linearly to output over the full cycle the mere fact that you've not turned off a output Q doesn't change the fact that you get a nonlinear output gm slope change - the more localized, "sharper" you change the current slope in the output devices the higher order the introduced nonlinearity New Class A, Super-A, Non-Switching : need a revival ? you should be able to pull up ~100 threads with searches of Tanaka, Pass (non)switching, sliding bias Last edited by jcx; 4th February 2011 at 02:19 PM.

5th February 2011, 01:04 AM	#5
Bigun diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: K-W Ontario Blog Entries: 2	yes, but regular Class B doesn't provide enough heat, it's almost useless at this time of the year in Canada. Your new low efficiency Class B with super high idle current helps a lot and reduces cross over distortion too. I think you have a winner on your hands. __________________ "The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed." Robert M Pirsig.

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4th February 2011, 09:36 PM	#4
ontoaba diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Kudus, & Malang	Umm.. but it is fixed biased, at around 5A not a variable biased amplifier, and it still draw 5A when idle. This amount of current is double of normal push pull classA that only need 2.5A bias for equal output power. No one using this one because it need twice idle current compared to normal classA. They love their power and save them.

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