I intend to buy a 10V relay. Can I use a varying DC supply of 9.5V to around 10.4V supply?
Thank you.
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Yes... there is generally a little "give" in the coil specs. The absolute limits should be listed in the relay's data sheet though. You ARE talking about thew coil rating right?
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poobah said:Yes... there is generally a little "give" in the coil specs. The absolute limits should be listed in the relay's data sheet though. You ARE talking about thew coil rating right?
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yes I'm talking about the coil.
unfortunately, I can't see the voltage operating range in the datasheet. all I see is the 10V (nominal).
thank you.
A 10 Volt relay would probably "pick up" at 6 Volts and "drop out" at around 4 Volts. So your safe at 9 Volts, easy, on the low side. Your limiter on the high side is power dissipation in the coil. You're safe to assume a +/- 10% on coil voltage.
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this is the relay I'm looking at: http://relays.tycoelectronics.com/datasheets/d2n.pdf
part no: V23105A5479A201
Thank you.
part no: V23105A5479A201
Thank you.
it's a 10V 32.5mA 550mW 182 Ohm coil 3A contacts It doesn't give pull in or hold current specs. I think 9V would be easy.
Hi Jarthel
From my reading of the datasheet, it looks like its good for from 6.3 to 13.4 volts.
Cheers
Rob
From my reading of the datasheet, it looks like its good for from 6.3 to 13.4 volts.
Cheers
Rob
Hi,
it looks like the low operate voltage using 182r and 32.5mA is about 6V. Well below your 9.5V.
The release voltage is only quoted as the minimum, in other word,s the voltage below which you must reduce to guarantee release.
The maximum release is what some relays will start to drop out at. You will need to measure this for your relay.
it looks like the low operate voltage using 182r and 32.5mA is about 6V. Well below your 9.5V.
The release voltage is only quoted as the minimum, in other word,s the voltage below which you must reduce to guarantee release.
The maximum release is what some relays will start to drop out at. You will need to measure this for your relay.
AndrewT said:Hi,
it looks like the low operate voltage using 182r and 32.5mA is about 6V. Well below your 9.5V.
where did you see this?
also can I use this relay for 240VAC?
I saw in the datasheet something like
"maximum switching voltage: 250VAC"
"UL contact rating: 30V/1A or 100V/.3A"
Thanks again
I saw in the datasheet something like
"maximum switching voltage: 250VAC"
"UL contact rating: 30V/1A or 100V/.3A"
Thanks again
Yes you can...
Be very mindful of one thing that relates to switches... of any type... toggles, relays, etc... The AC voltage and current ratings have NOTHING to do with the DC ratings. AC circuits have a big advantage... every 8.3 or 10 milliseconds the current goes to zero. This helps extinguish the arc. So... DC ratings for voltage and current are always much lower for the same relay (with a few exceptions).
Where are you wanting to use these relays? There are some things you should know about low level circuits maybe.
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Be very mindful of one thing that relates to switches... of any type... toggles, relays, etc... The AC voltage and current ratings have NOTHING to do with the DC ratings. AC circuits have a big advantage... every 8.3 or 10 milliseconds the current goes to zero. This helps extinguish the arc. So... DC ratings for voltage and current are always much lower for the same relay (with a few exceptions).
Where are you wanting to use these relays? There are some things you should know about low level circuits maybe.
🙂
poobah said:
Where are you wanting to use these relays? There are some things you should know about low level circuits maybe.
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I am planning to use this relay to turn-on the primaries for the B+ transformer. I will connect the primaries to the "normally-open" pins.
this is the circuit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/nuukspot/decdun/gc/555delay2.gif
I have a separate 9V transformer for the amp tubes' heaters. I'll use the voltage (which varies from 9.5 to 10.3 according to simetrix) on the 1st cap as +V input to the NE555.
That sounds fine...
Consider carefully your inrush currents at turn on.
The amount of current the relay must open is actually more important than the closure current. Do you have PSUDII?
This can give you inrush roughly...
Consider carefully your inrush currents at turn on.
The amount of current the relay must open is actually more important than the closure current. Do you have PSUDII?
This can give you inrush roughly...
poobah said:That sounds fine...
Consider carefully your inrush currents at turn on.
The amount of current the relay must open is actually more important than the closure current. Do you have PSUDII?
This can give you inrush roughly...
I will be using an ntc thermistor at the primary. should that affect the operation?
Yes,
That will help greatly. You can push the amperage ratings a wee bit where inrush is concerned... maybe a factor of 2 would be prudent. It is the interrupting (opening) ratings that you can't ignore.
Now, the relays aren't characterized that way... they give you one rating... illegitimate offsprings! You can generally assume the ratings refer to opening and not closing.
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That will help greatly. You can push the amperage ratings a wee bit where inrush is concerned... maybe a factor of 2 would be prudent. It is the interrupting (opening) ratings that you can't ignore.
Now, the relays aren't characterized that way... they give you one rating... illegitimate offsprings! You can generally assume the ratings refer to opening and not closing.
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you are most welcome...
Sorry if I explain things a little reluctant... gotta watch your rear around here.
You ask a lot of well thought out questions.
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Sorry if I explain things a little reluctant... gotta watch your rear around here.
You ask a lot of well thought out questions.
🙂
just found this datasheet(http://relays.tycoelectronics.com/datasheets/d2n.pdf)
ul contact rating:
30 Vdc / 1.0 A
100 Vdc / 0.3 A
125 Vac / 0.5 A for 150 mW and 200 mW coil
125 Vac / 1.0 A for 400 mW and 500 mW coil
does that mean I can't use 240VAC on it? current draw would be less than 500mA for the B+ supply and the amp current load (not including heaters as the amp tube's heaters are powered using a 2nd transformer).
ul contact rating:
30 Vdc / 1.0 A
100 Vdc / 0.3 A
125 Vac / 0.5 A for 150 mW and 200 mW coil
125 Vac / 1.0 A for 400 mW and 500 mW coil
does that mean I can't use 240VAC on it? current draw would be less than 500mA for the B+ supply and the amp current load (not including heaters as the amp tube's heaters are powered using a 2nd transformer).
That's correct... you need a relay with a higher AC rating I'm afraid...
Tyco's website is just loads of fun... ain't it?

Tyco's website is just loads of fun... ain't it?

poobah said:That's correct... you need a relay with a higher AC rating I'm afraid...
Tyco's website is just loads of fun... ain't it?
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how about this one? http://oeiwcsnts1.omron.com/pdfcatal.nsf/PDFLookUpByUniqueID/4C0C931D86929DE586256FC7006173ED/$FILE/D20G6A0305.pdf
G6A-274P-ST40-US-DC9 (9Vold version)
(see images for coil and contact specs)
http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=contactdatamj4.png
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=coildatadj9.png
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