Bridge With IRF 540 & IRF 9540

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hello friend,

U said one pair can handle only 75watts?
In Bridge we must use two pair.
Can that handle abt 150 Watts?


For Bridge with +/- 50V supply
My calculation is
Power max for 8 ohm ~ 253Watts.
Power max for 4 ohm ~ 507Watts.
Is that true?

For 8 ohm load in Bridge
Must use 2pair or 4 pair or 6 pair or .......?

Can u advise for me or give me calculation method ?
 
One pair = 75W so however many pairs you use you multiply by that number.

Assuming 50V rails with 5V rail loss and 4 ohm load, a single-ended (un-bridged) amp would be:

Ppeak = (V * V) / R = (45 * 45) / 4 = 506 W

Prms = Ppeak / 2 = 506 / 2 = 253 W

253 / 75 = 3.37

Therefore to run this you would need 4 pairs of output devices.

If you were to build two of these single-ended amps you would have a 2x 253 W into 4 ohm amp and use a grand total of 8 pairs of output devices for the stereo pair. If you were to bridge them, you would be limited to no lower than 8 ohm load (as each amp sees half the load impedance) so you would have a 1x 506 W into 8 ohm amp.

Note also that you must use IRF540 and IRF9540 not the newer IRF540N and IRF9540N devices as these newer types will not cope well with linear amplifier application and may go up in smoke.
 
Hello friends

Some years ago i had build a power amp with this mosfets.
Bridge amp with +- 43 volts supply,2 pair of IRF540 and 2 pairs of 9540 each amp(total 8 mos x channel)with low amount of NFB.
Some difficulties were taken place.
At the first the dumping factor of 25 / 8 Ohms,for me too much low.
Another problem of this mosfets is the difference between us , like result in a great number of refuse:40 mosfets in order to use 8.Neglect this selection,the current would be different and distortion increase.
I advice against to construct an amp whit this topology,i think that a bipolar is much better for a bridge power amp.

It would appeal to me that someone can reply to this
 
Here is my diagram
 

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That amp will blow up after time because it has no thermal compensation.

Are you going to try and lay that board out yourself? Because it will be quite sensitive to board layout, a simpler design would be advised.

You would add additional parallel output devices by replicating the gate resistor (220R), MOSFET and source resistor (0R22).

I suggest you just build a proven design that is right for your needs and skill level, or you will simply waste time and parts and get frustrated.
 
Hello Friends,

I used +/- 50V Power Supply

InPut Audio Music ( not sine wave ).
Used 1 AMP Fuse.
Bridge Out Put nearly +/- 100V sometime ( see in oscilloscope average +/- 50V )
connect with 3 spk(8ohm ,100W) in series.
Tested & Checked with Oscilloscope at SPK Connection.



I want to know is
If I used only one SPK( 4 or 8 ohm ),

SPK power ?
How can I calculate the power Output?
What AMP I must use in FUSE?
How many pairs (IRF 540 & 9540) do I need?


By richie00boy way

Max spk power is

Ppeak = (V * V) / R = (100 * 100) / 4 = 2500 W

Prms = Ppeak / 2 = 2500 / 2 = 1250 W


pairs of MOSFET
1250 / 75 = 16.66666

And I rms = sq root ( 1250 / 4 ) = 17.6776 A

USE FUSE about 17 AMP.

Pls, help & reply me.
If my calculation is false, pls correct me.

Thanks.
 
Thanks for Reply.

I already tested with 3A Fuses in ( 2 X 540 ) & ( 2 X 9540 ) in Bridge.
Used 3 SPK 8 ohm 100 watts in parallel.

Yes, under-rated fuses will not protect anything.

Fuses blown out & 3 MOSFET are burn out.

Change with 4 new Mosfet.
Still not work.
What do u think , which parts need to change for repair ?


Do u know another pair of MOSFET more POWER ?
Can I replace directly in my circuit?
 
I think it can stable in normal ( not bridge ).


My bridge burn out that I predicted in above.
Is that because of Mosfet?
Is that because of driver circuit?

richie00boy
Do u mean my hole circuit is not good ?
OR
Is the only problem driver ciruit ?
Can MOSFET handle more power than I predicted ?


In bridge unstable
Can anybody redesign my circuit in bridge mode?

Can that be stable if I parellel MOSFET ?

Sorry for my poor english.
 
richie00boy is right, you're wasting your time and money on that circuit.

If you want a bridge amp to run on ±50V, I suggest you use two pair of the MJ15003/04 per half bridge (a total of eight outputs per channel). Crown does this in their Macrotech 1200, a good design.

Depending on how 'stiff' your supply is, you will get about 500W~600W at 4 ohms.

http://www.crownaudio.com/gen_htm/legacy/legacamp.htm

I can show you a design idea for a IRF 640/9640 amp to put out 600W into 4 ohms. It would need ±95V and have eight pairs per channel (16 total). For bias, each transistor could be configured as a constant current source with its own opamp driver. Four quad opamps would be required, plus one more to drive the whole thing.

A conceptual schematic:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=182299
 
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