SS 120R085 Depletion Mode Jfet

buzzforb · 7th June 2011, 09:23 PM

Is there any wat to buy the SS depletion mode Jfets without buying large quantities?

Blues · 7th June 2011, 09:25 PM

Tea-Bag...

buzzforb · 7th June 2011, 09:28 PM

I was looking for the R085 depletion mode. I thought he was selling the R100 enhancement mode.

wrenchone · 7th June 2011, 09:38 PM

He also sells the 085 - check his group buy thread.

buzzforb · 7th June 2011, 09:41 PM

Thanks for the help.

Tea-Bag · 11th June 2011, 11:28 PM

I did get some more in, but I dont want this, and the moderators dont want this to be a sales thread.

On this totally rained out day in NE, I put one in an F3 clone with NO mods, and it plays, although the gain is super-low. That's no good for a already low gain amp.

I measured the in circuit vgs as -.850v approx.

I am looking at New Pass DIY layout website and the ArchNemesis document is there. Thinking of how to do that circuit without a transformer. So looking at that, and the ZV8 schematic to look at the basics. The F3 is regulated slow start with CCS, so it has the backbone for this kinda amp with a cap output.
I think I need to jumper the cascode FET and raise the source resistor up to 3-5R or so.
I know I am doing this off the cuff, but any comments?

Nelson Pass · 12th June 2011, 12:17 AM

Go for it.

buzzforb · 01:08 AM

I was wanting to try the R085 and the LU Jfet in a Kimmel Mu Follower type amp. I don't see why it would be any different than the F3, but i thought it might be worth a try. With the LU, i would try to keep the cascode setup and slave the CF/SF to it. Just a learning experience more than anything. Don't see anything beating the Aleph CS. Looking for more tubey sound for my FR drivers. To be specific, i am hoping for a little more soundstage depth. I figure this will tell me if its the amps or the speaker setup. I currently have DIY AJ monoblocks and they are great, but i don't know if they are ideal for these drivers. I will also try the DCB1 in collusion with my new F3 to see if the full SE route suits them better. I couls think of worse things to do with my spare time

What do you mean by jumper the cascode fet? If that means getting rid of it, it should work considering the main reason for it in the F3 was protection. I still wonder in what situation cascoding is not a good idea, considering the fact that it allows you to extract the exact operating points out of your main transistor.

Increasing the source resistor would throw away more gain, correct?

Tea-Bag · 12th June 2011, 01:54 AM

Buzz,
With the R085 in the De-light, It didn't like the low source resistor. I believe I was using 3-5R in there, depending on V+. It was more finicky than the R100 in enhanced mode in the same circuit. I have not played with that platform in some time (Or built much of anything honestly)

I think removing the feedback out of the loop would give some additional gain as well.

buzzforb · 12th June 2011, 11:09 AM

Do you see the R100 as being a better transistor or just easier to work with?

7th June 2011, 09:23 PM	#1
buzzforb diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Burlington, NC	SS 120R085 Depletion Mode Jfet Is there any wat to buy the SS depletion mode Jfets without buying large quantities?

7th June 2011, 09:25 PM	#2
Blues Lightning In A Bottle diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bremerton, WA	Tea-Bag... __________________ Quad Matched Toshiba 2SK1530/2SJ201 MOSFETs http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/swap-...ml#post2086375

12th June 2011, 01:01 AM	#8
buzzforb diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Burlington, NC	I was wanting to try the R085 and the LU Jfet in a Kimmel Mu Follower type amp. I don't see why it would be any different than the F3, but i thought it might be worth a try. With the LU, i would try to keep the cascode setup and slave the CF/SF to it. Just a learning experience more than anything. Don't see anything beating the Aleph CS. Looking for more tubey sound for my FR drivers. To be specific, i am hoping for a little more soundstage depth. I figure this will tell me if its the amps or the speaker setup. I currently have DIY AJ monoblocks and they are great, but i don't know if they are ideal for these drivers. I will also try the DCB1 in collusion with my new F3 to see if the full SE route suits them better. I couls think of worse things to do with my spare time What do you mean by jumper the cascode fet? If that means getting rid of it, it should work considering the main reason for it in the F3 was protection. I still wonder in what situation cascoding is not a good idea, considering the fact that it allows you to extract the exact operating points out of your main transistor. Increasing the source resistor would throw away more gain, correct? Last edited by buzzforb; 12th June 2011 at 01:08 AM.

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7th June 2011, 09:28 PM	#3
buzzforb diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Burlington, NC	I was looking for the R085 depletion mode. I thought he was selling the R100 enhancement mode.

7th June 2011, 09:38 PM	#4
wrenchone diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Silicon Valley	He also sells the 085 - check his group buy thread.

7th June 2011, 09:41 PM	#5
buzzforb diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Burlington, NC	Thanks for the help.

11th June 2011, 11:28 PM	#6
Tea-Bag not politcally affiliated diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kennebunk Blog Entries: 5	I did get some more in, but I dont want this, and the moderators dont want this to be a sales thread. On this totally rained out day in NE, I put one in an F3 clone with NO mods, and it plays, although the gain is super-low. That's no good for a already low gain amp. I measured the in circuit vgs as -.850v approx. I am looking at New Pass DIY layout website and the ArchNemesis document is there. Thinking of how to do that circuit without a transformer. So looking at that, and the ZV8 schematic to look at the basics. The F3 is regulated slow start with CCS, so it has the backbone for this kinda amp with a cap output. I think I need to jumper the cascode FET and raise the source resistor up to 3-5R or so. I know I am doing this off the cuff, but any comments?

12th June 2011, 12:17 AM	#7
Nelson Pass The one and only Join Date: Mar 2001	Go for it.

12th June 2011, 01:54 AM	#9
Tea-Bag not politcally affiliated diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kennebunk Blog Entries: 5	Buzz, With the R085 in the De-light, It didn't like the low source resistor. I believe I was using 3-5R in there, depending on V+. It was more finicky than the R100 in enhanced mode in the same circuit. I have not played with that platform in some time (Or built much of anything honestly) I think removing the feedback out of the loop would give some additional gain as well.

12th June 2011, 11:09 AM	#10
buzzforb diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Burlington, NC	Do you see the R100 as being a better transistor or just easier to work with?

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