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Old 10th February 2009, 01:53 AM   #2791
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Of course dissapation can be fairly low in regulators , depending on what voltage your raw supply is at . You may not need that much sinking. Are you thinking tight regulation or mostly capacitance multiplication?
The amount of heat you have to dissipate is the drop in voltage times the current, with some windage for peak vs average. My point was that a lonely LM317/337 probably wouldn't be up to the task.
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Old 10th February 2009, 09:09 AM   #2792
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an F5 fed from a regulated supply
An input choke transformer power supply has additional features and less downsides, imdo.
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Old 10th February 2009, 03:36 PM   #2793
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Maybe I misunderstand the previous post, but you cannot use a single LM3x7 regulator for the F5. The LM3x7 regs have a current limit of about 1.5A. Sure you can parallel them, but why do so, if a single LT1083 is up to the job?

You can wind your own choke if you want to go exotic, remember to deal with the additional magnetic field though. Improperly placed it can nicely reduce your dynamic range - but it's very probably not noticable...only measurable.

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Old 10th February 2009, 04:42 PM   #2794
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Default F5 build on one Conrad-151 hsink

Finally got to test the boards on one Conrad MF35-151.5 heat sink to test its
ability to cool two F5s for a possible balanced configuration. If it is too hot,
Nelson has commented that the bias could be reduced to lower hs temp.

The amps biased up easily enough. The current is 1.1775A on each mfet, {0.683v/0.58ohms}. So far, after two hours the temps range from 61°C, 57°C, 50°C going from the center of the hs to the edge.
As can be seen in the pics the mfets are clamped high up on the sink and the middle two could be separated more. Also, the ambient basement temp is 15.6°C {60°F}.

Hope to give a listen on junk drivers tonight and if it's behaving maybe hook them to a pair of Seas Thors fed directly with the Buffalo Sabre/Ivy w/volumite.
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Old 10th February 2009, 04:49 PM   #2795
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Old 10th February 2009, 05:17 PM   #2797
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I completed my new monoblocks as well, and I'm very happy with the amp; connected directly to a source (no line stage, no attenuator) this is probably the best amp I had in this system.

Disregard AC power connection, it's only temporary.
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I completed my new monoblocks as well, and I'm very happy with the amp; connected directly to a source (no line stage, no attenuator) this is probably the best amp I had in this system.

Cool, your builds are always a work of art.
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Old 10th February 2009, 05:43 PM   #2799
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Peter,

Tell us about your configuration :

which circuit, rail, bias
what FETs
what passives, etc.


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Old 10th February 2009, 06:13 PM   #2800
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After initial impressions with my first amp I got confident enough that this could be the amp to replace what I had previously. I've built it over last weekend using only the components I had already in stock, so I didn't have much opportunity to experiment with parts selection, but after all is done, it seems like parts choices worked out fine.

The main point of my build was to bring filter caps as close to the amp as possible. I used Vishays S102 for series resistors and Caddocks for input shunt ans feedback. In feedback I have 2 x 150R per side and IIRC the gain is approx 17.5dB. Didn't use current limiting as I'm pretty sure the amp sounds better without it, didn't use thermistors as they don't make much difference in a well ventilated chassis.

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My intention when designing those PCBs was the option to place the boards between two vertical closely spaced heatsinks, one device per heatsink:

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The copper wire bridging two caps is the main star ground, this is where speaker output and signal ground (from the input section) are connected.

Initially, I planned on 2 x 10,000uF Jensens only in the amp enclosure and the rest of the PS separately, but after initial inspection it seemed like the other 2 caps would fit too ( 2 x 15,000uF)

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The two banks of caps are connected p2p with Cardas wire, taking into account 4 pole configuration. I initially planned on Caddocks power resistors but didn't notice that values were wrong. I ended up with 0.22R 5W Mills in series between caps. They run reasonably warm only. As suggested, input and output are separated

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I used heatsinks that I purchased 15 years ago, because of special slots and threaded inserts, coming with a complete enclosure was reasonably easy, heatsinks are approx 5 x 11" and they probably run at 40 deg or so. Bias is set to 1.3A. I wanted that chassis to be well ventilated so the components, especially caps don't overheat.

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The slotted cover plates that can be moved up and down for easy access for the amp adjustement. Transformers were originally planned to install separately, but I figured out why not simplify things and put then on top; I might later install them inside the amp, but I probably won't bother

With 300VA, 2 x 18V Plitron per channel, the rails are approx 24V

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