There is no such beast as 'Audio Grade'. They are either good or very good.
EEUFK1V182L | Panasonic Aluminium Electrolytic Capacitor 1800?F 35 V dc 12.5mm Through Hole FK Radial Series Lifetime 5000h | Panasonic
EEUFC1V151 | Panasonic Aluminium Electrolytic Capacitor 150?F 35 V dc 8mm Through Hole FC Radial Series Lifetime 2000h | Panasonic
EEUFK1V182L | Panasonic Aluminium Electrolytic Capacitor 1800?F 35 V dc 12.5mm Through Hole FK Radial Series Lifetime 5000h | Panasonic
EEUFC1V151 | Panasonic Aluminium Electrolytic Capacitor 150?F 35 V dc 8mm Through Hole FC Radial Series Lifetime 2000h | Panasonic
I think you'll find that mouser advertises "Audio Grade Electrolytic Capacitors" e.g. Elna
...as an alternative to the OEM bog standard panasonic ones that I wish to replace.
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I think you'll find that mouser advertises "Audio Grade Electrolytic Capacitors" e.g. Elna
...as an alternative to the OEM bog standard panasonic ones that I wish to replace.
Really. An outfit that makes money by moving caps advertises and that is 'proof'? Really.
No, obviously it's not proof, but there are several that brand caps as 'audio' quality, e.g. HI-FI Collective.
Nichicon manufacture electrolytic capacitors specifically designed for audio.
Yes, muse are very good (looking)
yes the nichicon muse look great "BUT!" there doesn't seem to be any:
1800 uf 35v
150uf 35v
the nearest seems to be:
220
2200
...which brings me back to my original question?
No, obviously it's not proof, but there are several that brand caps as 'audio' quality, e.g. HI-FI Collective.
Nichicon manufacture electrolytic capacitors specifically designed for audio.
Yes. HI-FI Collective. Another outfit. Doesn't anybody ask what is so 'audio' about these caps?
Ohh wait, someone changed a cap for an 'audio cap' and the difference was night and day. Yes that must be it. And smart marketing does the rest.
Jan
...OK: what caps other than panasonic are suitable for DAC use: (with these parameters)
1800uf + 35v ?
150uf + 35v ?
or substitute:
1800 for 2200 ?
150 for 220 ?
You need to know what the purpose is. If it is for reservoir cap after a rectifier, the value is not critical, but you should look at the ESR or ESL.
If it is a coupling cap on the bottom of a feedback network, there's a minimum value but ESR or ESL is not critical.
You can not intelligently answer the question if you don't know what it's for.
Jan
And BTW it is uF, not uf. f = femto, F = Farad.
DAC use. Dosnt really mean much. Power filter, audio bypass, audio filter, sample and hold? They all have different needs. Really hate the marketers who prey on people like this who have very limited electronics knowledge, and think that if it's an audio device they just need "audio" caps. Do they also sell TV caps, and camera caps and microwave oven caps and automobile caps. Why not? Because audio caps is marketing BS.
You should separate the types of capacitors that you need by location.
Before the DAC regulator you need just good quality capacitors.Epsos, BC, Rubycon,Panasonic, Nichicon, Elna, Sprague, Mallory etc, anything as big as possible will do.You're looking for the industrial grade here.They are usually bigger and higher temperature, allthough 85 degrees celsius Sprague might be way better that today's 105 degrees.
After the DAC regulator you need low ESR capacitors like Sanyo oscon, Panasonic fc, fm and again, many others.I see no reason why you would need 35v dc electrolitic capacitors after the regs.You should have nothing higher than 15v on the analog side and 5 v on the digital side, so 16v and 6.3 v should be more than ok.
The so called "audio grade" capacitors are needed just for filtering, decoupling or coupling the analog rails for op-amps usually.Nichicon muse ...several series(kz...es), ELNA cerafine, silmic and many others that were analysed in Cyril Bateman studies, both polarised and NP . But don't believe any stupid thing that comes on the internet about capacitors!
Lots of chinese capacitors will do too with no complaint as long as they are used by the industry at large scale.Lelon is everywhere in the digital world and they still provide a good service.
I personaly am an Epsos(Siemens), Nichicon and Panasonic fan...
Before the DAC regulator you need just good quality capacitors.Epsos, BC, Rubycon,Panasonic, Nichicon, Elna, Sprague, Mallory etc, anything as big as possible will do.You're looking for the industrial grade here.They are usually bigger and higher temperature, allthough 85 degrees celsius Sprague might be way better that today's 105 degrees.
After the DAC regulator you need low ESR capacitors like Sanyo oscon, Panasonic fc, fm and again, many others.I see no reason why you would need 35v dc electrolitic capacitors after the regs.You should have nothing higher than 15v on the analog side and 5 v on the digital side, so 16v and 6.3 v should be more than ok.
The so called "audio grade" capacitors are needed just for filtering, decoupling or coupling the analog rails for op-amps usually.Nichicon muse ...several series(kz...es), ELNA cerafine, silmic and many others that were analysed in Cyril Bateman studies, both polarised and NP . But don't believe any stupid thing that comes on the internet about capacitors!
Lots of chinese capacitors will do too with no complaint as long as they are used by the industry at large scale.Lelon is everywhere in the digital world and they still provide a good service.
I personaly am an Epsos(Siemens), Nichicon and Panasonic fan...
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....this is the output/buffer board, the arrows indicate the caps to replace.
...OK forget audio : what caps other than panasonic are suitable for DAC use: (with these parameters)
1800uf + 35v ?
150uf + 35v ?
or substitute:
1800 for 2200 ?
150 for 220 ?
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