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Old 22nd March 2002, 06:25 PM   #1
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Default Wima MKP vs MKS

Is there any difference in sound quality between these two caps?
I will use them in Super Leach amp and I was very happy with Wima MKS. So will be Wima MKP (much) better?
I will used them for signal and bypass.

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Old 26th March 2002, 01:58 PM   #2
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supernet,







some people in my acqaintanceship in fact prefer the MKS4 to the MKP10. But i do avoid using any cap with "Wima" printed on it from cap listening comparisons i made. Maybe except those high voltage KPs intend for television use but even there i prefer Roederstein. And still prefer Siemens/Epcos MKV to all of them.







Wima must have some scientifically elaborated way to §$%& up the inner lead2lelement contact.







You can call this a solid prejudice but it is backupped by extensive listnening comparisons under worst-case conditions.
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Old 26th March 2002, 04:18 PM   #3
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A lot of the gang over here thinks they all sound "soft" on the high end.

Thanks for telling us why.

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Default German Caps

Ahhh...... a man who knows his Kondensatoren. I only like the small value foil Wimas. My experience with the ERO polypropylenes has much better. I can even hear the difference between Wimas and EROs in the coupling caps in the SPDIF serial digital link! A lot of people recognize the Wimas with thier red or light green cases. I think that many designers throw them in products because people see them and think "oh, Wimas!" the same goes for those light brown Dale resistors. I call this the "designer audio" syndrome. It is sort of like Nike shoes and Coors beer, marketing to yuppies plan. The next step up for "designer audio" is MIT caps and Holco resistors. It really gets funny when you know what to look for.... Of couse a lot of manufactures brand thier caps with the companies name to take this to a new level. Of course they all say picking "designer" parts is to voice the circuit. Then you would think that there would be a greater selection of voices out there than half a dozen brands of components...... Marketing!

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Old 26th March 2002, 06:49 PM   #5
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Well if want to be that way, Hairy........

Roderstein Kondenstoren fur die Elektronik are frequently used, along with your least favorite (Wima), for items exported to the Pacific Rim countries.

They like seem to like red and gold parts.

Win some, lose some.

As for why Dale became so popular.........go figure.

If you need to pick parts to "voice" the circuit, then it has other faults that are being covered up with more mistakes.

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Old 26th March 2002, 07:01 PM   #6
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Nien, der Roderstein ist da UberKondenstoren!!!!! I don't have problems with voicing a circuit, it is using politically correct parts that annoys me. I remove markings off caps just so people won't go "Ah..... brand X capacitors". You know mystery caps, your favorite brand.

H.H.

P.S. the ERO film caps area very nice blue and we all know blue sounds better than red........
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Old 26th March 2002, 07:25 PM   #7
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But Mark Levinson uses them in their power amplifiers!
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Old 26th March 2002, 07:31 PM   #8
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Default Pardon my ignorance but

What kind of Dale resistor are you guys referring to?

Do you mean the Vishay Dale RN55 - RN70 resistors?

Just curious

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Old 27th March 2002, 12:23 AM   #9
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Originally posted by Jocko Homo

A lot of the gang over here thinks they all sound "soft" on the high end.



Soft? SOFT?? they are smeared!! Nastily smeared!
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Old 27th March 2002, 12:34 AM   #10
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Folks,



if you crowd me enough withit, i might send you some Siemens/Epcos MKV 25839 coupling caps. Just to try them out.



The Roederstein MKV 1841 and KP 1836 are very good caps as the SCR/Audyn tinfoils are, just different, but only with the MKV, i might consider omitting the 200pF single-plate silver-mica bypass.



The MKV is playing in another league. Also in this league plays the old Siemens MKY (OOP, onyl to be found as surplus). If you should step into them, buy them all, keep what you need, sell the rest to me.
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