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Old 17th September 2006, 04:26 AM   #191
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What are the new replacements for the P17W and P13W and are they audibly as good or better than the original ?
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Old 17th September 2006, 02:55 PM   #192
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This AR crossover is really nice sounding, better then the previous crossovers I used.

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See, I left the best 'till last.... the AR series are nice crossovers and so easy to work with. You've tried 3 of the crossovers for this speaker, the single cap, standard series and the AR series, how would you rate each one? What you are now doing is one of the aims of this little speaker is to tweak and try different things to hear what the differences are.

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Yep it's a shame that the P13 is going to disappear but there are heaps of good drivers out there. Maybe builders can chime in with a list of alternatives with similar sonics and ability. The SEAS 27TDFC is a fanastic tweeter and just completed a speaker today using that tweeter and a Peerless 830875 Nomex.... nice combo.... and AR crossover.

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There is no direct replacements for the P17 or P13. The closest from Tymphany would be the Peerless HDS drivers.
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Old 26th October 2006, 05:39 AM   #193
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Default Re: But the Vifa drivers are going away!

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The P13 project looks great, and I was thinking of, as Dave said, putting it in the queue... but the P13 driver is being discontinued. Can we start Reference Project #2?
Blimey, you lot know how to panic a girl! I'd cut up a pile of little bits of MDF, only to read that the drivers I'm basing everything on are gone. Luckily Wagner had stock of the P13s and D26TG35 (but not TG45), so I snapped up a pair of each today.

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PS: Thanks for putting up such a detailed design.
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Old 26th October 2006, 06:26 AM   #194
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Default P13 design update

I have only just updated the design so it digs deeper to get some mid bass. The Wiki will be updated in the next week or so.

The crossover used was the 6R8, 0.7mH, 3.3uF (see post #179)as I had a 3.3uF Mundorf Supreme that needed a home. The inductor was a Solen 1.6mm and a 10W non inductive resistor.

I'm very happy with the update as has made the little speaker a bit more useable.
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Old 26th October 2006, 06:28 AM   #195
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The drawing of the updated design.
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Old 26th October 2006, 07:10 AM   #196
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Rabbitz _ Hi

Can you email me with a price to get a couple of the tweeters across the ditch to me in wellington NZ? I have the p13 and this looks like a good project

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Old 26th October 2006, 08:29 AM   #197
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Default Re: P13 design update

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I have only just updated the design so it digs deeper to get some mid bass.
Geez, that'd be right! I'll press on with the original sized box, as it's more suitable for the desk in my study.

Have you thought of useing the P17 mid-bass? If you're doing a bigger enclosure anyway, that strikes me as a pretty good way to get better bass.

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Old 26th October 2006, 03:05 PM   #198
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Send the enquiry via my website (see the WWW button).

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It's just an exercise in sqeezing a bit more out of the P13 in the spirit of this thread.

The original design was always just a starting point and spring board into the hobby. Something that could be tweaked, builders comparing notes, used as a reference for future projects due to the magic mids of the P13 and drivers used in other configurations such as the TLb.
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Old 26th October 2006, 05:34 PM   #199
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Default Re: Re: P13 design update

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useing the P17 mid-bass? If you're doing a bigger enclosure anyway, that strikes me as a pretty good way to get better bass.
We are sitting on P13W + tweeter & have another tweeter + the midrange oriented version of the P13 + 4 PSB/VIFA P17 OEMs -- were thinking of a set of 4 speakers with a 3-way tower for the big guys & the refs for the small guys. P17 doesn't do the mids like the P13 does.

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Old 26th October 2006, 07:59 PM   #200
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Rabbitz...... Done


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I am looking forward to the three way design already, what are your thoughts on the third driver? any information about this already available?
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