Used without the 2" extension I'd say it's one of the best drivers to cover a wide range without having to add a treble horn and it's beryllium not plastic
probably only for a direct driver. The horn unless very rigid will impart its fabric sound.Is TAD 4002 the best driver ever maid for horn?
Is diaphragm driver in plastic sound like plastic ?
Is thin horn with plastic sound like plastic ?
Want to know before dying !
I would like to know the best current 1" and 11/4" driver so I can test in a speaker and and tell. Same for horn to match. OS? JMLC? probably Geddes as we have dialogue unlike JMLC. Both good guys but how good
Diaphragm sound in directs is notthe same as in a horn with a phase plug. Brass is likely to be best out of a brass wave guide of similar shape yeh. And a wooden one for piano ?
Is that why it is so difficult to reproduce the human voice? It may be a good speaker test to see if you can reproduce laughter
I will eventually waste money on the Faital HF140 from looking at the numbers on a pipe, but from what I can see if you have a big horn and enough headroom its going to be about EQ until the harmonics converge enough to get in the way. Curious about the EV DH1 too and whether or not the 3" domes can get up there as well as 1.4 and 2" also curious about the horn adapters because I doubt the is anything the can get as low and as high efficiently as these Peaveys, they are remarkable after EQ. Did I mention serious SPL ? (which to me meand clarity) Count me in as a general fan of Electro Voice they always did everything right.
See where you are coming from.
When I figure in the material used for making the diaphragm, the limit for HF extension to proper levels may be a just a bit higher with a horn and phase plug effect to linearise the sound propogation into the throat and horn. A 3/4" dome beats 1" dome direct radiator. I guess 1" is probably around the limit for a pressure driver as it is wavelength limited by throat dimension. The larger diameters just cannot get the extension and need a super tweeter. PA does not need the high extension audiophiles need. All the old Lansing. Altec etc did fine with early roll of for cinema etc. Beryllium has altered things but at a silly price. There are cheaper materials that will displace Be to get the cost down in the next few years. People like the name beryllium and it helps sell it like platinum, diamonds etc Who falls in love with polyester laminate or aluminium.
I think you are on to something peteleoni. EQ/DSP can approve things a lot.
The B&W Matrix are by the way very mediocre speakers. It doesn' take a lot for something to be better. Take a look at the measurements below where they are compared to CBT36's.
http://www.audioartistry.com/brochures/B&W 801 vs. CBT36 Ground-Plane Measurements v8.1.pdf
The B&W Matrix are by the way very mediocre speakers. It doesn' take a lot for something to be better. Take a look at the measurements below where they are compared to CBT36's.
http://www.audioartistry.com/brochures/B&W 801 vs. CBT36 Ground-Plane Measurements v8.1.pdf
But only if you believe the "difraction slot are worst than cancer" rule.
I think after JBL M2/D2 we will see more throatless driver with sensible difraction slot horn designs.
If the mixing gig doesn't work out you can get a job as a wine reviewer.
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The B&W 801 matrix are found in more mastering houses than any other speaker, and the reason DB. Keele used then to compare is they have been his reference speakers for decades too! Mediocre? Yes among the most accurate direct radiation speakers ever made, which makes them in fact mediocre, as they are the standard reference, flat and reliable
Are you John Atkinson? Have I passed the audition? I will obfuscate and confuse, I can fit in.
Clearly Don Keele does not value horizontal directivity control (its very bad in that data). I never understood his position on this, we have argued it many times. I would turn the CBTs on their side and place them against the side walls and deal with the floor and ceiling reflections in the room, not in the speaker.
The truth is they were DB Keeles reference speak for a reason, we use them in studios for a reason. They are good accurate speakers. What they can not do is the same thing all direct radiation speakers can not do and that is dynamics. They squash the life out of close mike drums, acoustic piano, dynamic singers, the list goes on. They Di the job they were made for well, and that job is being a crosd section of "everymans" speaker. They are expensive but they do what they are made to do. They lack the impact and clarity of horns simple as that.
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