here is a drawing for a Peavey FH-1 which is a better version of the La Scala design, if you need additional info I have it. If you want to go with a purely Klipsch design then go with the Belle which is a better design than the La Scala though not as good as the FH-1. Best regards Moray James.
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Moray, I actually like some of the Peavey Black Widows drivers for cheap and easily repaired drivers in a PA system. Most BW models are trying to copy a JBL and some are trying to copy Altecs.
Although I just am not sure the BW's have the finesse for a high end home listening system (I could be wrong).
Have you tried the FH-1 with a Klipsch K-33?
If not what drivers do you recommend for FH-1's?
Although I just am not sure the BW's have the finesse for a high end home listening system (I could be wrong).
Have you tried the FH-1 with a Klipsch K-33?
If not what drivers do you recommend for FH-1's?
Moray, not to press but I need to know what drivers you personally have heard in the FH-1, this is important.
Although I have not heard it in a horn I would make a very strong guess that the 2226h is not a great horn driver as it has a high mass cone made more for direct radiators. I like the 2226 as a direct radiator though.
Altec 515's. I had a few of the alnico original coned drivers in a split 210 horn set, really expensive stuff, it has been a while but I think they started rolling off in a horn around 200hz and sounded not so great at 500hz. Maybe my cones were too old and soft, magnets needed recharge or I didn't have the right models or I didn't know what I was doing at the time though because many swear by them.
EV 15L or B are always great, always work, always loud and clear in a horn! Although I liked the JBL 2220 better in my Edgar 80 hz horns. I believe the Jbl 2220 was designed to be used in bass horns, love them.
So really I was wondering about a JBL 2220 versus Klipsch K33 in a Peavey FH-1 bass bin or other drivers you have personally heard in the FH-1.
Although I have not heard it in a horn I would make a very strong guess that the 2226h is not a great horn driver as it has a high mass cone made more for direct radiators. I like the 2226 as a direct radiator though.
Altec 515's. I had a few of the alnico original coned drivers in a split 210 horn set, really expensive stuff, it has been a while but I think they started rolling off in a horn around 200hz and sounded not so great at 500hz. Maybe my cones were too old and soft, magnets needed recharge or I didn't have the right models or I didn't know what I was doing at the time though because many swear by them.
EV 15L or B are always great, always work, always loud and clear in a horn! Although I liked the JBL 2220 better in my Edgar 80 hz horns. I believe the Jbl 2220 was designed to be used in bass horns, love them.
So really I was wondering about a JBL 2220 versus Klipsch K33 in a Peavey FH-1 bass bin or other drivers you have personally heard in the FH-1.
In my SP! which is an FH-1 with the CH-11 horn on top I have listened to the stock driver which looks just like an old square mag K33 and which is made by Eminence sounds fine for home levels. I had the chance to listen to the 1504 which is the stock driver in the FH-1 which is better but at home levels does not put the SP1 driver to shame but i does play louder and cleaner at level that's for sure.
An on line bud ran the simulations for a pile of drivers the 515 Altec had the smoothest widest bandwidth in the FH-1 the JBL had the lowest distortion. Another on line bud has used a number of drivers and finds the JBL2226H the very best in an FH-1 with the lowers distortion of any driver he tried. That's all I can tell you. I don't think that a K33 would be any better than the stock SP1 driver made by Eminence. Hope that helps. Best regards Moray James.
PS you would be very hard pressed to find a better designed and or built driver than the 2226H. After all these years it still has a big bag of wow factor going for it.
An on line bud ran the simulations for a pile of drivers the 515 Altec had the smoothest widest bandwidth in the FH-1 the JBL had the lowest distortion. Another on line bud has used a number of drivers and finds the JBL2226H the very best in an FH-1 with the lowers distortion of any driver he tried. That's all I can tell you. I don't think that a K33 would be any better than the stock SP1 driver made by Eminence. Hope that helps. Best regards Moray James.
PS you would be very hard pressed to find a better designed and or built driver than the 2226H. After all these years it still has a big bag of wow factor going for it.
Moray, thanks again for the input. Even though I think the 2226 would not be ideal in an FH-1, I guess that is not going to keep me from trying it! Just love to throw odd speakers in a horn to see what happens, fun stuff. Now to find me some of them Peavey FH-1's for free.......I will do it...watch, people usually hate FH-1's because they think they are a sub and they don't do sub at all with a single box in the home but we all know here the mid bass is where they are very happy.
Moray, would you elaborate on how the FH-1 is better than the Klipsch? I am interested in possibly using this with a Synergy horn for the top end. I realise that subs will be necessary for the deep bottom end. I was seriously considering a ported La Scala bass horn until you brought the FH-1 to my attention.
nothing does sub work with only one box a channel. I agree that people often mistake what an FH-1 does and it is a good design. For starters the FH-1 is braced the La Scala is not. The FH-1 is longer than a La Scala and it does not have the two parallel dead zones on each side of the dog house that the La Scala has. The FH-1 has a larger mouth area han the La Scala does. The FH-1 is what a Belle should have really been, they are almost the same design if you look at the two speakers. You can port a FH-1 just the same as a La Scala. A three way Synergy can get you down to 50 Hz. a FH-1 is the least amount of folding possible and lots of output in a very compact package. From what I am told the JBL is stunning in the FH-1 if you can find a pair to try do so and you can tell me. Good luck. Best regards Moray James.
In this topic with wrong name(backloaded horns) it contains mainly front-loaded horns.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/182233-back-loaded-horns-7.html#post2458747
You will find plans for a la scala and I posted the best result I could make for a la scala type of enclosure, this result was possible with the beyma SM115.
A other nice site for you is Volvotreter.
He made a 4 way frontloaded horn system with tapped horn low frequency. In the picture the black thing in the corner is the tapped horn.
Volvotreter Homepage
Succes.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/182233-back-loaded-horns-7.html#post2458747
You will find plans for a la scala and I posted the best result I could make for a la scala type of enclosure, this result was possible with the beyma SM115.
A other nice site for you is Volvotreter.
He made a 4 way frontloaded horn system with tapped horn low frequency. In the picture the black thing in the corner is the tapped horn.
Volvotreter Homepage
Succes.
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