4" for Mini Monitor

inrank · 10:06 AM

Can anybody recommend any 4" mid bass drivers for a Mini Monitor designed for a small 8ft square room (Needs to be a sealed enclosure)
And more about tight, punchy bass and not depth.

Similar ilk to the ATC SCM7.

Quite liked the 4" Seas (11FG iirc) mid bass in the Keesonic Kolt, really tight and punchy, So the CA12RCY/MC12RC could be good.

The Wavecor WF120BD03_04 looks interesting as well, Still new so no real stuff on the internet, Zaph reviewed it favorably though.

The Fostex FW108N has always interested me, but seems very expensive for what you get, and not many documented projects with it.

The Fane Studio 5m/Celestion 0510 have always interested me as well, but i doubt i will get a nice smooth midrange from these pro-orientated mid-bass.

I seem to prefer doped/coated paper and poly cones (Seas 11FG, ATC SCM7, Volt BM220)

Decided to move away from full-range drivers

Cheers, Rob

Moondog55 · 3rd August 2011, 08:36 AM

Not a 4 inch but wouldn't the Vifa P-17fit that description?? 4inch and tight punchy bass really is an oxymoron. I seem to recall that they have started making those again

inrank · 3rd August 2011, 08:46 AM

Well the Seas 11FG did tight and punchy, as did the SCM7's (with a suitable amp though).

jerome69 · 3rd August 2011, 08:50 AM

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inrank · 09:41 AM

Cheers Jerome, that looks the kind of thing, although ported

Seems the Keesonics could have been the 11F-GX (H0149/CA11RCY) so the CA12RCY could well a good starting point!

The CA12RCY and D2905/9300 (heard that Scanspeak tweeter before and really liked it!) could be a good?

jerome69 · 3rd August 2011, 10:12 AM

Yes CA12+9300 can do a nice loudspeaker, but this woofer is done for BR, you are going to limit seriously the bass output in a closed box.
Can you try a 5" ? we have more choice.

inrank · 3rd August 2011, 10:20 AM

I suppose i could, to be honest, i was getting along not too badly with the Omnes Audio BB3.AL in a Spherical sealed box, without BSC. Bass really is an issue in this tiny room. Even some Tannoy Mercury S, which i have found bass light in most situations, overpower the room and create a lot of resonances.

inrank · 3rd August 2011, 10:25 AM

The room with the BB3.AL speakers mentioned above-

Some Rega R1's that did ok-

And the Keesonic Kubs mentioned-

The Keesonics were the best with bass control and tightness, as i said, they used the CA11RCY/11FGX in a sealed box (around 4 Litres i think) which seemed to work quite well. The CA11RCY seems to have very simmilar specs to the CA12RCY. Their main downfall was the lack of smoothness in the treble, something that the SS D2905/9300 would do a lot better than the Monacor (i think) based unit that they used.

el`Ol · 12:20 PM

Cut away the whizzer of this one?
F155 Cube Audio Breitbandlautsprecher
Or use this:
http://www.spectrumaudio.de/breit/om...esaudioL5.html
I don't find fullrangers are a bad idea, even if one doesn't like them. Crossed high they can be combined with a decent and affordable ribbon like this:
http://www.expolinear.de/images/stor...-0.5%20pro.pdf

talaerts · 3rd August 2011, 01:36 PM

tangband have a few small woofers that look nice on paper at least.
Visaton has a very good one with metal cone.

3rd August 2011, 08:33 AM	#1
inrank diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2005	4" for Mini Monitor Can anybody recommend any 4" mid bass drivers for a Mini Monitor designed for a small 8ft square room (Needs to be a sealed enclosure) And more about tight, punchy bass and not depth. Similar ilk to the ATC SCM7. Quite liked the 4" Seas (11FG iirc) mid bass in the Keesonic Kolt, really tight and punchy, So the CA12RCY/MC12RC could be good. The Wavecor WF120BD03_04 looks interesting as well, Still new so no real stuff on the internet, Zaph reviewed it favorably though. The Fostex FW108N has always interested me, but seems very expensive for what you get, and not many documented projects with it. The Fane Studio 5m/Celestion 0510 have always interested me as well, but i doubt i will get a nice smooth midrange from these pro-orientated mid-bass. I seem to prefer doped/coated paper and poly cones (Seas 11FG, ATC SCM7, Volt BM220) Decided to move away from full-range drivers Cheers, Rob Last edited by inrank; 9th March 2012 at 10:06 AM.

3rd August 2011, 08:36 AM	#2
Moondog55 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norlane; Geelong: Victoria: Australia	Not a 4 inch but wouldn't the Vifa P-17fit that description?? 4inch and tight punchy bass really is an oxymoron. I seem to recall that they have started making those again __________________ QUOTE" The more I know, the more I know, I know (insert maniacal laugh >here<) NOTHING"

3rd August 2011, 09:24 AM	#5
inrank diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2005	Cheers Jerome, that looks the kind of thing, although ported Seems the Keesonics could have been the 11F-GX (H0149/CA11RCY) so the CA12RCY could well a good starting point! The CA12RCY and D2905/9300 (heard that Scanspeak tweeter before and really liked it!) could be a good? Last edited by inrank; 3rd August 2011 at 09:41 AM.

3rd August 2011, 12:03 PM	#9
el`Ol diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bavarian Forest	Cut away the whizzer of this one? F155 Cube Audio Breitbandlautsprecher Or use this: http://www.spectrumaudio.de/breit/om...esaudioL5.html I don't find fullrangers are a bad idea, even if one doesn't like them. Crossed high they can be combined with a decent and affordable ribbon like this: http://www.expolinear.de/images/stor...-0.5%20pro.pdf Last edited by el`Ol; 3rd August 2011 at 12:20 PM.

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3rd August 2011, 08:46 AM	#3
inrank diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2005	Well the Seas 11FG did tight and punchy, as did the SCM7's (with a suitable amp though).

3rd August 2011, 08:50 AM	#4
jerome69 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lyon	Speedster - undefinition

3rd August 2011, 10:12 AM	#6
jerome69 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lyon	Yes CA12+9300 can do a nice loudspeaker, but this woofer is done for BR, you are going to limit seriously the bass output in a closed box. Can you try a 5" ? we have more choice.

3rd August 2011, 10:20 AM	#7
inrank diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2005	I suppose i could, to be honest, i was getting along not too badly with the Omnes Audio BB3.AL in a Spherical sealed box, without BSC. Bass really is an issue in this tiny room. Even some Tannoy Mercury S, which i have found bass light in most situations, overpower the room and create a lot of resonances.

3rd August 2011, 10:25 AM	#8
inrank diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2005	The room with the BB3.AL speakers mentioned above- Some Rega R1's that did ok- And the Keesonic Kubs mentioned- The Keesonics were the best with bass control and tightness, as i said, they used the CA11RCY/11FGX in a sealed box (around 4 Litres i think) which seemed to work quite well. The CA11RCY seems to have very simmilar specs to the CA12RCY. Their main downfall was the lack of smoothness in the treble, something that the SS D2905/9300 would do a lot better than the Monacor (i think) based unit that they used.

3rd August 2011, 01:36 PM	#10
talaerts diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2005	tangband have a few small woofers that look nice on paper at least. Visaton has a very good one with metal cone.

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