hi all
i just found some pics of this amazing speaker on the net M1
first impression is WOW its big
i wonder how it sounds
i,ve been looking for ages for a design like this to use as a base for my next diy speakers but how would a 12" driver go producing midrange ?
and what about a compression driver for highs ,i know they use them alot in the pro industry but are they good enough for home audiophiles
any way i reckon they look grouse and would proberbly blow your socks off
any oppinions ?
regards sheafer
i just found some pics of this amazing speaker on the net M1
first impression is WOW its big
i wonder how it sounds
i,ve been looking for ages for a design like this to use as a base for my next diy speakers but how would a 12" driver go producing midrange ?
and what about a compression driver for highs ,i know they use them alot in the pro industry but are they good enough for home audiophiles
any way i reckon they look grouse and would proberbly blow your socks off
any oppinions ?
regards sheafer
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Looks beautiful and simple. The drivers look like off the shelf pro audio drivers. The tweeter horn looks like it is turned the wrong way. I bet someone on here could tell us the drivers and we could easily clone it using the information they give on crossover points.
saw these, saw the price tag, laughed so hard i shot coffee out my nose.
For the price of these, one could easily purchase an old farmhouse and install a pair of altec a7s with the sound practice mods in the barn.
For the price of these, one could easily purchase an old farmhouse and install a pair of altec a7s with the sound practice mods in the barn.
A real brawl about Daniel Hertz M1 speakers at the Axpona show!!
Agreed about the price.
does anyone actually think they look good?
They look as tacky as you can get in my book.
Agreed about the price.
does anyone actually think they look good?
They look as tacky as you can get in my book.
hi all
i love the look of em !!!!
and price is not relevent for us as we are diy addicts all we need to know is what drivers they use and what can we use as substitutes
i would love to diy something crazy like these using pro drivers
and have already been checking out suitable drivers
cheers sheafer
i love the look of em !!!!
and price is not relevent for us as we are diy addicts all we need to know is what drivers they use and what can we use as substitutes
i would love to diy something crazy like these using pro drivers
and have already been checking out suitable drivers
cheers sheafer
So I take it you're not going to add chrome rings to your drivers now? I guess you're afraid of being labelled a 'copy cat'.
The blog linked was hilarious.
Don't worry at all what they use, there are plenty of other great units out there from a number of brands.
Not crazy, fairly mainstream for some of us.
It could sound OK, but we'll probably never know.
Geddes uses them (and 10's and 15's) in his designs with good results. I use 10's and think they're excellent.
Yes, but like everything, there are good and less than good drivers and flares. A sane starting point for a CD is the B&C DE250 and the JBL Ewave flare.
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hi brett
i was just looking at some of the paudio drivers at cannon sound in aus
they seem to be well priced and have all the drivers to build something similar
mid - P.Audio SN-10MB Series II 10 Inch 600w Neo Mid Bass - Public Address Systems | Portable PA Systems | DJ Equipment & Lighting
bass-http://www.cannonsound.com.au/p/577288/paudio-c18-600lf-600-watt-18-inch-low-frequency.html
high-http://www.cannonsound.com.au/c/192500/3/compression-drivers-and-tweeters.html
or maybee these Celestion CD2-3065 2 Inch Bolt-on Compression Drivers (Pair) - Public Address Systems | Portable PA Systems | DJ Equipment & Lighting
regards sheafer
i was just looking at some of the paudio drivers at cannon sound in aus
they seem to be well priced and have all the drivers to build something similar
mid - P.Audio SN-10MB Series II 10 Inch 600w Neo Mid Bass - Public Address Systems | Portable PA Systems | DJ Equipment & Lighting
bass-http://www.cannonsound.com.au/p/577288/paudio-c18-600lf-600-watt-18-inch-low-frequency.html
high-http://www.cannonsound.com.au/c/192500/3/compression-drivers-and-tweeters.html
or maybee these Celestion CD2-3065 2 Inch Bolt-on Compression Drivers (Pair) - Public Address Systems | Portable PA Systems | DJ Equipment & Lighting
regards sheafer
Nothing to say
They copied my design 😎
Quite basic : big volume for a big woofer ,which has to be necessarily near the floor to keep efficiency with the mid&tw ; the box being tilted to accomodate the offset of mid&tw ; crossover made accessible to change the parts 😕 that's me ! and also mechanically isolated ; port (s) on the bottom front ....that is a big compromise ...I would have had it preferably on the back or on the bottom ,but I choosed to keep it on the front because of my little room and their positioning near the walls.
Ok ,mines are 12"+6.5"+1" dome at 94 dB/W/m and costed me about 300$ ,and I don't think they can handle more than 100W 😛
They copied my design 😎
Quite basic : big volume for a big woofer ,which has to be necessarily near the floor to keep efficiency with the mid&tw ; the box being tilted to accomodate the offset of mid&tw ; crossover made accessible to change the parts 😕 that's me ! and also mechanically isolated ; port (s) on the bottom front ....that is a big compromise ...I would have had it preferably on the back or on the bottom ,but I choosed to keep it on the front because of my little room and their positioning near the walls.
Ok ,mines are 12"+6.5"+1" dome at 94 dB/W/m and costed me about 300$ ,and I don't think they can handle more than 100W 😛
I've used a lot of PAudio stuff over the years (still have maybe 10 drivers) and it's OK, but generally nothing special. You can do better with other drivers either locally or imported esp with the $ so high.
The 2" CD will start breaking up somewhere after 8-10k so you'll need something above it, which is why I suggested a 1" driver. Good 2" flares are less common and generally more expensive. With few exceptions, I'm not fond of Ti diaphragms.
PS: Wayne's article is also well worth reading.
http://www.pispeakers.com/Pi_Speakers_Info.pdf
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The speaker is 5 feet tall. The tweeter is near the top, and the 12" just below. I imagine it firing over your head.
I agree with the post that says they are kinda ungly, certainly not much imagination.
dave
I agree with the post that says they are kinda ungly, certainly not much imagination.
dave
Hi Brett
Someone selling the Gedde's Nathan kit on SNA could you use it for mid & treble an add a pair of 15"s or a 18" driver for bass duties .
Hi Sheafer
Mate you go through speakers 🙂,how have you been anyway .
CHeers
hi all
i agree with those that say the design is basic with not much imagination ,but i for one prefer this look (shoot me but i also like the crome dress rings as well)
kinda like a osbourne grand monument plain looking but special in its own way
i also belive that as long as it works then why does it have to look fancy
it looks like the old style jbl and such bookshelfs big mean and loud but i think knowing the designers other products that it would also have a level of finese as well
hi 56 i,m just dreaming at the moment but the torana is about to go on the market and i will have some spare cash soon for my ultimate blow my room apart project ,big ,bad ,and ugly and using some 18 or 21" drivers of course !!!
got any pics of yours mal i,m keen to see them post them in this thread if you like
cheers sheafer
i agree with those that say the design is basic with not much imagination ,but i for one prefer this look (shoot me but i also like the crome dress rings as well)
kinda like a osbourne grand monument plain looking but special in its own way
i also belive that as long as it works then why does it have to look fancy
it looks like the old style jbl and such bookshelfs big mean and loud but i think knowing the designers other products that it would also have a level of finese as well
hi 56 i,m just dreaming at the moment but the torana is about to go on the market and i will have some spare cash soon for my ultimate blow my room apart project ,big ,bad ,and ugly and using some 18 or 21" drivers of course !!!
got any pics of yours mal i,m keen to see them post them in this thread if you like
cheers sheafer
those threads and blogs are incredibly funny, Heinrich had me in tears
and i do tend to agree the things are just plain boring, but rather ostentatious. if spending money on rings like that i would go for titanium anyday
and i do tend to agree the things are just plain boring, but rather ostentatious. if spending money on rings like that i would go for titanium anyday
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Me jealous? ML was thrown out of his own company Mark Levinson Audio Systems by Harman, Cello went bankrupt, his sexy wife left him (apparently the book they wrote together did not help)
😱
What your selling the car 🙁 ,I sold my car project to finance the audio I think I should of kept the car the wife wasn't happy with me selling it .
No pic's of mine ,still box's of bits and more bits added .
Bass cab bits
CHeers
