A ding is unacceptable. And the cones should have no coating on them… i put a coating on mine during the EnABLing process, but they do not come that way.
dave
dave
I wonder what happened then! That’s crazy. Will try to find my dslr and take a few pictures. The phone camera doesn’t get the differences.
It won’t be til tomorrow. Camera battery is charging but I have no means to upload at home (no computer home)
That's the eye of the observer. I clearly see the difference between pics 2 and 3 (they were taken at the same spot, the granulation and extra shine on 3 is the cone texture, not focus.
I could live with it (and probably will have to, shipping is too expensive) but it really sucks to have different speakers on a new pair. This could all be avoided if Madisound had only opened the boxes and checked before shipping.
ow that you point it out i can see the difference in reflectivity. Whst sbout the dent? And the orange peel?
I have 6 A10.3c downstairs that i have yet to touch the cone on. I will have a look.
dave
I have 6 A10.3c downstairs that i have yet to touch the cone on. I will have a look.
dave
Picture 3 shows the orange peel texture (maybe you can tell better in the Hi-res pictures in the link). After more careful examination it looks like if the cone was not pressed by itself, and instead of being pressed by the tool, had another cone in between, that softened the brushed texture. If that makes sense.
Picture 1 shows the dent in the center of the cross hair. As I said, it is minute. It doesn't make me happy, but if it weren't for the difference in texture I wouldn't have complained.
Still no definitive result… and the "Update your browser to use Google Drive" message is annoying.
You should at least talk to Madisound. I have always found them sympethetic.
dave
You should at least talk to Madisound. I have always found them sympethetic.
dave
I'm in touch with Brian @ Madisound, he will send the pictures to MarkAudio. Communication has been great thus far.
Just an update here regarding the speakers. Brian @ Madisound was a pleasure to deal with and I just received the replacements.
The new set look alike and I really wanted to state here how pleased I am with Madisound. You know, these days most companies would just turn their back and tell me to complain with the manufacturer. Fortunately Madisound gave me an awesome support.
Just if you curious, the new set both have the slight texture. Turns out the dinged speaker sent first had also a smoother smoother than what seems to be the norm, according to these new arrivals.
Well, I will set them up to break in and hopefully buy some plywood this week!
The new set look alike and I really wanted to state here how pleased I am with Madisound. You know, these days most companies would just turn their back and tell me to complain with the manufacturer. Fortunately Madisound gave me an awesome support.
Just if you curious, the new set both have the slight texture. Turns out the dinged speaker sent first had also a smoother smoother than what seems to be the norm, according to these new arrivals.
Well, I will set them up to break in and hopefully buy some plywood this week!
Indeed it does. And with the FH3 and A7.3s crossed at around 200Hz and mated with 8-inch/10-inch drivers doing up to 200Hz, the A7.3s come alive. there's something quite liberating about freeing them from bass duties.
I have FH3 and XL and prefer the imaging of the narrower FH3s, so I use them more! Actually I have some Omnis now and seem to be using them even more.
You can get reasonably decent, good power digital amps for very little and they sound pretty darn fine. I use an ICE power example a fair amount of the time and am astounded at how satisfying it is for the small amount spent.
I see the ding. It’s subtle but there and visible. Should not be present on a brand new driver although so minor probably won’t affect sound. It would bother me too given the cost. That is one disadvantage of driver cones made from thin aluminum - almost a foil like thickness.
Madisound should give you exchange.
Madisound should give you exchange.
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X - not that it's particularly germane, but I seem to remember conversations with Mark re the composition of metal cones, and I'm pretty sure they're not simply aluminum?
Yes, but metal based cones in general are prone to dings vs paper or poly or carbon fiber which are more resilient or tougher. Thin aluminum alloy has a distinctive sound though - more top end in general.
Is it really worth having the FH3s if you're crossing so high up?
I'd've thought a smallish sealed box with the appropriate internal treatments (some lining and/or diffusion to break up reflections) would be just fine for 200Hz use, and take up very little space.
Chris
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