Visaton B80

[lithoc]

Hi All,

Did anyone notice there's new Visaton B80 full range speaker?

Visaton - Lautsprecher und Zubehör, Loudspeakers and Accessories

So far no full specs yet.

Wonder how it sound

[HornTube]

Visaton is sh.... Visaton is a poser, everything at Visaton is fake, cheap, dirty and plainly false. Even the photos on their website about the manufacturing process are faked!

[chris661]

Zaph would, I suspect, disagree. Here's some comments on their little titanium-coned midbass.

"Comments: Titanium cone midwoofer with a straight cone profile. Very well built but also very expensive. Smooth response with a large breakup node at 6.5kHz. Class leading harmonic distortion from 100-1kHz but rising above that. Low HD along with a low Le point to an excellent motor design. This will sound the best crossed around 1600hz to a large format tweeter, however it could work fine crossed higher depending on your tolerance of the 3rd order HD peak at 1800 hz. Tested July 2007."

I find the lower end products (FRS8) to be very good for the price.
Spend more, you'll get a better product.
A lot of people are also using the B200 from them.

Can't be all bad, it's a competitive market and they're still going.

[HornTube]

Originally Posted by chris661

Can't be all bad, it's a competitive market and they're still going.

Yes, give millions away for ads and buy some Awards from the press and there you go. Tangband is also cheap but better so what.
B200? Oh please, give me a break. Ever heard of Gradient Axis?

[hm]

Hello,
it is not simple as you wrote,

i have good experience with different
Visaton driver,
the B200 was one of the best FR in
my Sat-Horns specially for classic
listener because the B200 has no double cone,
look a few constructions with measurements.

[HornTube]

The Gradients will cut your no-name Chinese drivers ...ohhh sorry I meant Visaton in thousand pieces, make burgers out of them and sell them on the Hamburger Fischmarkt.

[talaerts]

The German diy magazine Hobby Hifi measured it in its latest issue. It did seem quite good, especially the waterfall diagram.

[HornTube]

The so-called German magazine Hobby-HIFI is a one person show.

The bass of the B200 is muddy, especially in comparison to other FR drivers. The mids are a rough ride to handle - they are lacking there - a real problem. The distortion diagrams are much worse than Alpair or Tangband and you need a gigantic box for them. I do not see one reason to use them.

Oh, the waterfall is only good down to 1kHz, under 1kHz it looks quiet bad.

[borispm]

HornTube, it seems you're going a bit too extreme. Visaton is just like other driver manufacturers, they do everything from dirt cheap to ridiculously priced stuff. B200 may be bloody expensive but they also build the small FRS8 and things in between.

Sounds as if you KNOW a lot about speaker manufacturing, pal. Do you work in Visaton so that you know how they build that ****? Or do you work for a competing brand?

[HornTube]

Let say I know how they managed to break in the HiFi & HighEnd market over night. Before that they were a lousy more cheap than cheap crap producing firm no one respected. And yes I know that the B200 and other drivers are no-name Chinese made drivers, and yes the photos on their website are really faked!