Mar-Kel70 in Sweden

[Scottmoose]

Me old timber-shiverin' matey Pit speaks sage words there...

Dave's (as in Planet10) Tysen cabinet might suit if he's got the passive XO sorted.

 

[Rullknufs]

Where can i find the Tysen cabinet? I've checked at planet-10 hifi but didnt find any.

 

[Pit Hinder]

Knullruffs - the problem with single subs: harmonics. No matter how strict the Xover, the driver itself produces harmonics way up into midrange. You need to put your sub right in the middle between the sats or your bass will jump all over the place.
So, OK - make silk stockings out of a sow´s ears. You need stands for your sats anyway, so why not have the stands contain a bass driver each? Instead of having to find three perfect locations for your boxes you only need two. DIY rulez!

 

[Rullknufs]

Yeah, that's exactly what i was thinking. Making a sat with a stand containing a subwoofer. It will look like a floorstander but it's a sat with a sub.

 

[Pit Hinder]

You got it. Subwoofer doesn´t have to mean single - you just are gentleman enough not to make that pretty ballet dancer carry sacks of coal. And when crossing over low you can make the "stand" slim by having the bass driver fire sideways...no problem.

 

[Scottmoose]

Where can i find the Tysen cabinet? I've checked at planet-10 hifi but didnt find any.

You'll probably have to ask Dave.

Twin subs / woofers are good. Much better than one.

 

[planet10]

Scott & I are in the preliminary stages of a FAST based on the new Mark Audio #6 woofer. FR of your choice. Lots of room for individual expression. Hardest part will be working out the passive XOs.

dave

 

[planet10]

Where can i find the Tysen cabinet? I've checked at planet-10 hifi but didnt find any.

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/144099-thread-tysen-variations-fast.html

and a couple spin-offs
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/154132-tysen-variation-fe167e-css-sdx7.html
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/152963-cheap-version-famous-tysen-speaker.html

dave

 

[Rullknufs]

Well, that looks good to be honest.
But, with side-fireing subs isn't it hard to place them in a room?
One of them will stand next to an open door (left speaker) and the right one will stand in a corner. And in between those are a drawer (http://www.ikea.com/se/sv/catalog/products/20062596)
My room is far from perfect. And i can have them too far from the wall either. The front of the speaker can be around 60-70cm from the wall.

 

[Pit Hinder]

Cease dreaming. There ain´t none such beast as a perfect room. Just tailor your boxes to what you have. And, Dave,...an affordable passive Xover @100 - either impossible or weirdest trickery. Let´s rock.

 

[Rullknufs]

Yes, but there are better rooms than my room.
And how about the crossover, where do i get that?
Which drivers should i use? What material? Any cutsheets, drawings?

 

[Pit Hinder]

That´s the main problem. First find out who sells what in ABBAland...good ideas from England Canada Germany won´t help you if you have to buy abroad. Being a close neighbour I might help a bit, but having to buy without looking IS a problem.

 

[Rullknufs]

Buy without looking, you think of the material or the drivers?
The drivers will probably have to be shipped in from UK/USA/Canada i'd bet. But material should be possible to get close to where i live. Will send some emails to some big wood-companies.

 

[planet10]

I was thinking more like 200-300 hz. 100 Hz is cheaper to do active.

dave

 

[Pit Hinder]

Hmmm...I think Scott has tried some Monacor drivers - pester him to give comments. They may look butt ugly, but the build quality is super, and they are available in €uroland.

 

[Pit Hinder]

Dave, that´s what I was thinking about. 100Hz passive, you need your own copper mine and cap factory. Have you ever tried to Xover a Schmacks horn? Don´t.

 

[Rullknufs]

Well, the look should really be a problem. I could cover the drivers with some sort of fabric or something.

 

[Pit Hinder]

Enlist your mother in the project. Having her make it look good means HER pocket money gets added to the funds. (evil trick, so don´t tell)

 

[Rullknufs]

Haha, what should she be doing?
Well, i've sent emails to Callans and NWP. Gonna search for more factories too.

 

[Pit Hinder]

Matey, when She Whose Words Are Law gets to decide the colour...Herman (pro boxbuilder) once got a pair of Voice of the Theater past a lady that way. Look them up, they are something.
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