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Old 4th August 2010, 09:20 PM   #71
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Default Wiki Re-Org

Hey Guys,

I love that this site has a wiki but I'm having trouble getting excited about the content. Here are the issues that I see:
  1. Front page doesn't link to a lot of content
  2. Much of the content is not browseable from the first three levels of the wiki hierarchy
  3. Most wiki pages don't include a TOC
  4. Most wiki pages don't include header tags

Can I suggest the following format for the Front_Page (and it's subsequent sub-pages):
  • Welcome
  • Using the Wiki
    • Editting Guide
    • SandBox
    • OldWiki
  • General Topics
    • diy Safety
    • Glossary of Terms
  • Electronics
    • Getting Started
      • Back to the Basics (of Electronics)
    • Tips and Techniques
    • Tools and Equipment
    • Amplifiers
      • Solid State
      • Pass Labs
      • Tubes/Valves
      • Chip Amps
      • Class D
      • Power Supplies
    • Source and Line
      • Analog & Analog Line Level
      • Digital & Digital Line Level
      • PC Based
    • Blue Prints (list of projects available for build by members)
  • LoudSpeakers
    • Getting Started
      • Types of Speakers
      • Listening Rooms
      • How Speakers Work
      • Others I've not yet thought of
    • Tips and Techniques (construction techniques, etc)
    • Tools and Equipment
    • Articles; just a links page; we can organize them more throroughly as we get more content)
    • Loudspeaker Projects/Blue Prints (split into 3 sections. mutli, full, subs, planars&exotics; each section has links to related topics)
    • Loudspeaker Design
    • Software Tools
  • diy Resources
    • Parts Vendors (sectioned up by region; aka, APAC, AMS, EMEA)

The keen observer will note that this closely matches the layout of the forum categories.

Also, I'm going to suggest that the default template for pages include the TOC tags at the top. That way, people are incented to use them and header tags in their articles.

Thoughts?

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Old 5th August 2010, 12:52 AM   #72
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I haven't done anything with the WIKI for a while, but there are a few things I should update.

The problem with adding all those categories suddenly is that there's little information to fill them with. As a result, all the existing articles will be split up between them all, and it will just look like there's nothing there except categories. I prefer to create new categories as needed, so that way it stays convenient. If/when we get enough people contributing, we can start adding preemptive categories.

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Old 5th August 2010, 06:21 AM   #73
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The problem with adding all those categories suddenly is that there's little information to fill them with. As a result, all the existing articles will be split up between them all, and it will just look like there's nothing there except categories. I prefer to create new categories as needed, so that way it stays convenient. If/when we get enough people contributing, we can start adding preemptive categories.
I'm happy to contribute although I don't have much knowledge to do so. I recognize that there isn't a lot of info there but by taking some threads out of the system and then linking projects and the existing articles then I think that we can fill most of them with at least some content.

Also, tagging threads as potential wiki articles and then requesting the OP of that thread to contribute is quite reasonable also.

I'm sure that people have received quite a lot of help from the site so asking them to give back really isn't out of turn, is it?

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Old 5th August 2010, 08:18 AM   #74
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I agree with your entire post.

Maybe there is one category we can pick to focus on?

Someone made a thread to list all the DIY amps. We could probably ask that person to put the list up on the wiki and then we could go about documenting those amps, with the help of their creators?

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Old 5th August 2010, 07:27 PM   #75
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Someone made a thread to list all the DIY amps. We could probably ask that person to put the list up on the wiki and then we could go about documenting those amps, with the help of their creators
Sounds like a grand idea, provided that the creators are willing to help.

It would also be a good idea to create a place for those folks to send wiki articles into a queue to be processed by volunteers. ie - for those that just don't want to learn wiki syntax.
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Old 5th August 2010, 08:36 PM   #76
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does anyone have delete permissions for articles? I accidentally created WikiIntroduction and Introduction; I need to get 'http://www.diyaudio.com/wiki/Introduction' deleted.
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Old 5th August 2010, 08:39 PM   #77
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PS - I've made some changes to the wiki section of the front page.
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Old 6th August 2010, 10:35 PM   #78
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Guys, I've created the wiki page [WikiStructure] so that we can collect our thoughts on how to re-org the wiki.

It's basically a copy/paste from my post above (with some additions). Can we discuss this to see how to make it work? Perhaps we should start a new thread?

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Old 7th August 2010, 03:48 AM   #79
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Unfortunately, I think we two are the "guys".

Why not contact Ostripper, he is doing a gargantuan project and I think a WIKI page would be the best place to document it.

The MONGREL (supersym II)

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Old 7th August 2010, 12:58 PM   #80
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Why not contact Ostripper, he is doing a gargantuan project and I think a WIKI page would be the best place to document it.

The MONGREL (supersym II)
That project looks awesome! But I have one problem with it... Everything in it is sooooo[o+] far above my head that when I try to climb up to understand it, the delta in air pressure gives me a nose bleed.

I'd love to write up the build plan for it, but I'd need to someone to translate it into 'stupid' for me first. For now, I've put it on my To Do wiki while I attack some of the wiki fundamentals first.

But reading it tells me that the templates that we create for these kinds of projects need to have a section for "additional modifications" where people can add offer their own improvements on build plans.

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