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Old 29th April 2012, 01:15 AM   #461
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Hi Arthur (PHEONIX)

Just to give you an indication of the sound tracks we used for listening. Sorry that the description may be incomplete and I do not have the time to go further right now since I am just before a longer business trip abroad ;-) All music are from CDs or downloaded files that we either have purchased or received explicit permission to use (in some cases sample files made available by recording company):

CARD#1 (16GB)
Kreisler- Praeludium and Allegro.dff
Mozart Sinfonia Concertante in E-flat major K.364 (320d) - I. Allegro maestoso.dff
Rimsky-Korsakov Dance of the Tumblers.dff
Symphony No.5 1st movement.dff
Beethoven-Sonate_32-2L-049-SACD.dff
Jen Chapin - Big Brother.dff (original Chesky 192kHz/24bit file)
Love feeling.dff
My Love.dff
Ole_Bull-Concert Fantastico-2L-067-SACD.dff
Primera Fila - Thalia.dff (Mexican artist recorded by Sony Music)
Sigmund Groven & Iver Kleive: harmOrgan 2L-077-stereo-DXD_02.dff (original DXD 352.8kHz/24bit file)
Hugh Masekela - Stimela (The Coal Train).dff
Jack Johnson - Brushfire Fairytales - 01 Inaudible Melodies.dff

CARD#2 (16GB)
DSD-1bit Consortium (1bit Audio Consortium Web Page) at Waseda University, Tokyo
01-DSD64_21kr01_2ch.dff (violin)
02-DSD128_22kr01_5_6M_2ch.dff (violin)
03-DSD256_2006_nagano_ohba.dff (violin)

DSD-West Side Story (unique recording from East Europe)
DSD128-W_S_Story_05.dff
DSD256_W_S_Story_05.dff

Pink Floyd - Dark Side of The Moon (CD)
CD-04-Time.wav
DSD64-04 - Pink Floyd - Time.dff
DSD128-04 - Pink Floyd - Time.dff
DSD256-04 - Pink Floyd - Time.dff

Duo Sotanas
CD-04. M Haydn , Duo for violin and viola No 1 in C major MH335 - Allegro.wav
DSD64-04 - Haydn Duo in C Allegro.dff
DSD128-04 - Haydn Duo in C Allegro.dff
DSD256-04 - Haydn Duo in C Allegro.dff

Kari Bremnes Live (CD)
CD-Kari Bremnes - Live -05- Sangen om fyret ved Tornehamn.wav
DSD256-Kari Bremnes - Live -05- Sangen om fyret ved Tornehamn.dff

Tsai Chin (CD)
CD-04 Love me again - Tsai Chin.wav
DSD256-04 Love me again - Tsai Chin.dff

Hiromi Iwasaki (CD)
CD-My Love.wav
CD-My Love.dff

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Old 29th April 2012, 12:01 PM   #462
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my nice new Sandisk ultra 30mb/s SDHC was not recognized....@001 format error.
I should say three points on SDHC memory cards;
1. What "Class" means
A "Class number" denotes a maximum speed of "WRITING" in Mbps. If you want a rapid writing, it's better for you to select a memory card of higher class number.
2. What is important for SDTrans
A speed of "READ" is critical for plays on SDTrans. Its limit is determined in principal by the method of readout adopted by SDTrans. Not by the "Class" property of the card.
3. The use of Class 10
They say some devices are not compatible to this class because the "Class 10" was added later. This might also apply to "Ultra".

Please understand such complicated situations for SDHC memory compatibility.
In my case, I usually select "Silicon Power" class 4 or class 6 as their prices are very reasonable.
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Old 29th April 2012, 02:37 PM   #463
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I should say three points on SDHC memory cards;
1. What "Class" means
A "Class number" denotes a maximum speed of "WRITING" in Mbps. If you want a rapid writing, it's better for you to select a memory card of higher class number.
2. What is important for SDTrans
A speed of "READ" is critical for plays on SDTrans. Its limit is determined in principal by the method of readout adopted by SDTrans. Not by the "Class" property of the card.
3. The use of Class 10
They say some devices are not compatible to this class because the "Class 10" was added later. This might also apply to "Ultra".

Please understand such complicated situations for SDHC memory compatibility.
In my case, I usually select "Silicon Power" class 4 or class 6 as their prices are very reasonable.
Thanks for the clarification Bunpei,
This is just an initial test and not a problem.

Is just follow your sugestion for class 4 or 6



Edit: just checked Sandisk Ultra is C6 !!! but does not work.
The one i have that is working is Sandisk C2.

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Old 30th April 2012, 10:01 AM   #464
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Hi Bunpei,

It makes sense that for SDtrans read speed is what matters, I'll try a few others.

here is very interesting group test at "Tom's hardware"

It is still not clear to me if response time of the SDHC card is also critical for SDtrans, this parameter also varies a lot and is not directly related to Class classification.

Here is Silicon power class 4 read speed and a access time comparison test:
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Old 30th April 2012, 11:03 AM   #465
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Dear CeeVee,

If you want to identify the cause of the errors you got on SandDisk, please send them to me. I will ask Chiaki to check them.

Bunpei
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Old 30th April 2012, 11:09 AM   #466
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Dear SDTrans users and those who made payment and has not received any shipping notice,

This is on holiday seasons in Japan. I am away from my residence. My usual e-mail connection is off-line now. I only maintain a web access.
If you need any urgent communications with me, please send a PM on this forum to me.

Best regards,
Bunpei
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Old 30th April 2012, 02:01 PM   #467
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I have about 20 pcs of SDCARDs and with these
* SanDisk SDHC 2, 4, 8, 16GB class 2,4, and 6
* SanDisk Ultra 16GB class4
* SanDisk Extreme III class 62GB
* Kingston SDHC 32GB class 4

I have no problems using SDTrans384 with the 3.1 software (not DSD FPGA yet).


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Old 30th April 2012, 03:27 PM   #468
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I have a few more cards, going to test these today and then will see.
Funny thing is that the SanDisk Ultra C6 that does not play in SDtrans has gorgeous sound in my car's Mp3 player...it's not all bad.

The cards i'll be testing today are:
SONY SDHC C4 16G
LEXAR SDHC C4 32G
Samsung SDHC C10 16G
Kingston SDHC C4 16G

will let you guys know.
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Old 30th April 2012, 05:47 PM   #469
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Well,

They all work great, on that sandisk insists not to...go figure!
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Old 10th May 2012, 02:23 PM   #470
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Default Announcement on release of sync-option sub board kit release

This week, I have sent an announcement e-mail to SDTrans users who made their reservations before for the sync-option sub boards.
If any of you have not received it yet, please drop your usual Internet e-mail to Bunpei.
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