Finally, an affordable CD Transport: the Shigaclone story

Stixx · 2012-02-20 7:01 pm

@ Stixx - There are compatible CD mechanisms that do not require a puck (they use a 3-ball laptop-style CD mounting):
SANYO LASER LENS SF-P101N DA11B3VF (16P) W/MECHANISM SFP101N | eBay
This mechanism is also considered to sound better than the boombox one.

Yep, I know... I have one of those already but liked the idea to have a precision puck made... or maybe made of Delrin instead...my trademark for volume knobs

BMW850 · 2012-02-20 7:09 pm

This is an aluminum puck.
Maybe this goes into production but that is just to wait and see.
Also the price will be cheaper that what I've paid. (150 Euro)

Here's a video about the "Shigaclone" the music was a bit too loud, also with the 3-ball laptop-style CD mounting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0pkmtH0058&context=C31aecb4ADOEgsToPDskKSqSDmRZ69PPqvcxdS6fJE

Regards,
Rudy

DaveM · 2012-02-20 8:06 pm

I am curious, did you have any issues fitting the aluminum spindle to the motor? I 've thought of making one, but I am concerned about damaging the motor bearing.

BMW850 · 2012-02-20 8:26 pm

The motor axis fits exactly in CD Platform.
First to test CD Platform with a little piece of rice paper scrolling between motor and CD Platform.
After that you know the exact distance, you can use Loctite.

Regards,
Rudy

tube 300 · 2012-02-20 8:42 pm

I am interested in 2 or 3 boards

uncle_leon · 2012-02-20 9:41 pm

BMW850 said:
This is an aluminum puck.
Maybe this goes into production but that is just to wait and see.
Also the price will be cheaper that what I've paid. (150 Euro)

Here's a video about the "Shigaclone" the music was a bit too loud, also with the 3-ball laptop-style CD mounting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0pkmtH0058&context=C31aecb4ADOEgsToPDskKSqSDmRZ69PPqvcxdS6fJE

Regards,
Rudy

Rudy, do you think your supplier would be able to make a wooden puck for me if I provide a suitable wood piece?

spresto9 · 2012-02-20 9:50 pm

Me to

Hi all
one for me please!
Spresto9

BMW850 · 2012-02-20 10:15 pm

uncle_leon said:
Rudy, do you think your supplier would be able to make a wooden puck for me if I provide a suitable wood piece?

I don't think it is a metal company: Metaaldraaierij Dondorff BV
If I know more about the CD Platform, I'll report here.

Regards,
Rudy

Ed LaFontaine · 2012-02-21 5:02 am

I am a wood turner. Tell me about the puck you want. I have access to most types of wood.

lugia862 · 2012-02-21 5:29 am

Stixx said:
uncle_leon
NOMDI x 3
syklab x 2
apoopoo999 US
CeeVee x 2
Lucylu
pchw x 2 US
Turbon x 2
DaveM US
Praudio Canada
kamaths US
timjac41
dillmeister x 2 Canada
BMW850 x 2
Erik van Voorst x 2
JimS x 2 US
IndyAudi x 3
ChicagoJTW US
tubo x 2
quan x1
Ivo-Cici x2
Pjotr27
Stixx
vgeorge
ilrapa x 2
sandbasser x 2 US
Angcl x 2
JBdV x 2
andrewgm x 1
zjaakco x 2
Tony X x2
buzzforb US
skippyboy
rikkert1978
valo
Ed LaFontaine x 2 US
Puffin x2 (depending on cost)
BTW x 2
marcus1 X 2
rchomeless
Jean-Charles
Tham
ColinAlex
C12mech
secanbj x2
geoteam 777
RKH x2

lugia862 x5
some friends outside seems to be interested as well

syklab · 2012-02-21 7:01 am

Ed LaFontaine said:
I am a wood turner. Tell me about the puck you want. I have access to most types of wood.

Well,
The puck may be similar to the one in Peter's thread or BMW850 but in ebony or heavy hard wood.

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digi...ransport-shigaclone-story-72.html#post1906228

Audiohifi · 2012-02-21 8:11 am

tvicol said:
There will be three boards:
1. asp&dsp board
2. display & controll board
3. power supply board

For IR remote you can use a universal one.
I'll try to provide also hard to find components like LA6541, LA9242, LC78601 and maybe SF-P101N-16P CD mechanism.

Regards,
Tibi

Please put in one set for me
Thanks

TheGimp · 2012-02-21 12:52 pm

Are there any quality issues the three ball gripper in this one:

SANYO LASER LENS SF-P101N DA11B3VF (16P) W/MECHANISM SFP101N | eBay

vs the plastic three point gripper in this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/350101142263?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

That is to say, is either superior to the other or does one have reliability issues which the other does not have?

Thanks.

Steven

JBdV · 2012-02-21 12:59 pm

what about the flatcable from CD chassis to PCB ?
Is this standard flatcable or something special?

c12mech · 2012-02-21 2:40 pm

Another wood turner here. When I can get to my lathe again I have several different woods to try out. I bought a couple of pieces of ebony when I was home last year for this exact project. I'm going to use the drawing that Peter referenced. I'm not sure how economical it would be to make these. After I do one I will know.

massimo · 2012-02-21 2:41 pm

@ JBdV: Standard, available in different lenght. Sockets too (SMD or TH)

jnewbold · 2012-02-21 3:06 pm

tvicol
uncle_leon
NOMDI x 3
syklab x 2
apoopoo999 US
CeeVee x 2
Lucylu
pchw x 2 US
Turbon x 2
DaveM US
Praudio Canada
kamaths US
timjac41
dillmeister x 2 Canada
BMW850 x 2
Erik van Voorst x 2
JimS x 2 US
IndyAudi x 3
ChicagoJTW US
tubo x 2
quan x1
Ivo-Cici
Pjotr27
Stixx
vgeorge
ilrapa x 2
sandbasser x 2 US
Angcl x 2
JBdV x 2
andrewgm x 1
zjaakco x 2
Tony X x2
buzzforb US
skippyboy
rikkert1978
valo
Ed LaFontaine x 2 US
Turbon
Puffin x2 (depending on cost)
BTW x 2
marcus1 X 2
jnewbold

DaveM · 2012-02-21 3:17 pm

The thing to do with the puck is to have them cnc machined. I think plastic is the way to go for a group buy. Wood is going to tend to move after being cut and many machinists don't like to have the moisture on their machines. If I were doing this for myself alone, I might take a piece of ebony or hard rock maple, rough it into shape and then put it in a jar of tung oil for a couple months. That will guarentee it won't move once finished. But for a group buy, that isn't reasonable. The last thing we want is people without a lathe getting a puck for $100 that turns to junk as it dries and they have no way of fixing. Delrin is considered a replacement for metal when cost, corrosion and weight are concerns. It is also known for being very dimensionally stable. That would be my suggestion, as nobody wants a GB gone bad.

TheGimp · 2012-02-21 3:34 pm

jnewbold said:
tvicol
uncle_leon
NOMDI x 3
syklab x 2
apoopoo999 US
CeeVee x 2
Lucylu
pchw x 2 US
Turbon x 2
DaveM US
Praudio Canada
kamaths US
timjac41
dillmeister x 2 Canada
BMW850 x 2
Erik van Voorst x 2
JimS x 2 US
IndyAudi x 3
ChicagoJTW US
tubo x 2
quan x1
Ivo-Cici
Pjotr27
Stixx
vgeorge
ilrapa x 2
sandbasser x 2 US
Angcl x 2
JBdV x 2
andrewgm x 1
zjaakco x 2
Tony X x2
buzzforb US
skippyboy
rikkert1978
valo
Ed LaFontaine x 2 US
Turbon
Puffin x2 (depending on cost)
BTW x 2
marcus1 X 2
jnewbold

TheGimp - One, possibly 2 depending on price

CeeVee · 2012-02-21 3:55 pm

DaveM said:
The thing to do with the puck is to have them cnc machined. I think plastic is the way to go for a group buy. Wood is going to tend to move after being cut and many machinists don't like to have the moisture on their machines. If I were doing this for myself alone, I might take a piece of ebony or hard rock maple, rough it into shape and then put it in a jar of tung oil for a couple months. That will guarentee it won't move once finished. But for a group buy, that isn't reasonable. The last thing we want is people without a lathe getting a puck for $100 that turns to junk as it dries and they have no way of fixing. Delrin is considered a replacement for metal when cost, corrosion and weight are concerns. It is also known for being very dimensionally stable. That would be my suggestion, as nobody wants a GB gone bad.

Would vote for Delrin absolutley.

The price being asked for a puck is ....( being polite ) a little steep

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