What you need
Here is exactly what you need but still not offered as stand alone unit. Is the XHRA-2HPA USB2.0 processor of XMOS and the associated parts. It provides both I2S and S/PDIF outputs. The only limitation is that supports DSD up to 128Fs. PCM up to 384KHz is supported. I have study very well and i'm going to built it next month, or when i will have available the parts, the 4 layer PCB and a programming tool for the quad speed flash memory in which will be stored the firmware. The firmware can be modified to support any DAC converter through I2C protocol or through the GPIO outputs.
Hi GyuriGustard U12 Xmos USB, perhaps?
Here is exactly what you need but still not offered as stand alone unit. Is the XHRA-2HPA USB2.0 processor of XMOS and the associated parts. It provides both I2S and S/PDIF outputs. The only limitation is that supports DSD up to 128Fs. PCM up to 384KHz is supported. I have study very well and i'm going to built it next month, or when i will have available the parts, the 4 layer PCB and a programming tool for the quad speed flash memory in which will be stored the firmware. The firmware can be modified to support any DAC converter through I2C protocol or through the GPIO outputs.
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Thanks brother Fotis,
I'm really curious about your development.
I must have to say, at the moment I'm thinking of to buy a WaveIO board from Lucian.
It is obvious it can be drive MSB Platinum Link DAC via S/PDIF.
It would be the most comfortable solution.
However I don't know, how I can drive it with a 192kHz signal.
As I stated it earlier, it can't be possible via S/PDIF.
I am not convinced, that it can be processing 192kHz signal at all.
The manual is rather vague in this regard:
"To play a 24/192 disc the Platinum only needs an input option installed to be fully compatible."
It didn't say it explicitly, what would be this option?
Later there is a description, that MSB Network capable to play 192kHz:
"The MSB Network supports 4 stereo channels of 192k data at once."
But this statement is explicitly about MSB Network, not this DAC.
So I'm confused. 😕
As always. 😉
Regards,
Gyuri
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/825785/Msb-Technology-Platinum-Link-Dac.html#manual
I'm really curious about your development.
I must have to say, at the moment I'm thinking of to buy a WaveIO board from Lucian.
It is obvious it can be drive MSB Platinum Link DAC via S/PDIF.
It would be the most comfortable solution.
However I don't know, how I can drive it with a 192kHz signal.
As I stated it earlier, it can't be possible via S/PDIF.
I am not convinced, that it can be processing 192kHz signal at all.
The manual is rather vague in this regard:
"To play a 24/192 disc the Platinum only needs an input option installed to be fully compatible."
It didn't say it explicitly, what would be this option?
Later there is a description, that MSB Network capable to play 192kHz:
"The MSB Network supports 4 stereo channels of 192k data at once."
But this statement is explicitly about MSB Network, not this DAC.
So I'm confused. 😕
As always. 😉
Regards,
Gyuri
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/825785/Msb-Technology-Platinum-Link-Dac.html#manual
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Hi Gyuri
Obviously the MSB network is an add-on module. In manual there is a picture of a cable terminated with XLR and RJ45 plugs for use with the MSB. And is clearly refered that you couldn't transfer a 192KHz stream to DAC without this module. You have to buy it. In this link there is explanation: http://www.sound4sale.com/manuals/192upgradeManual.pdf
Thanks
Obviously the MSB network is an add-on module. In manual there is a picture of a cable terminated with XLR and RJ45 plugs for use with the MSB. And is clearly refered that you couldn't transfer a 192KHz stream to DAC without this module. You have to buy it. In this link there is explanation: http://www.sound4sale.com/manuals/192upgradeManual.pdf
Thanks
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Dear Fotis,
Thank you for your reply.
Life is not so easy, you know it well.
I have read this manual earlier.
It is an output modul.
There is a sentence, what have made me confused:
"Is your MSB DAC ready? If you have a Platinum DAC with a CAT-5 connector on the back, your Platinum is ready."
I definitely have CAT-5 connectors on back of Platinum.
Thank you for your reply.
Life is not so easy, you know it well.
I have read this manual earlier.
It is an output modul.
There is a sentence, what have made me confused:
"Is your MSB DAC ready? If you have a Platinum DAC with a CAT-5 connector on the back, your Platinum is ready."
I definitely have CAT-5 connectors on back of Platinum.
So my question is:
Can I use MSB network input on my DAC somehow?
Without that pricey (to me) modul.
Can I feed it somehow with an 192kHz I2S signal?
Can I use MSB network input on my DAC somehow?
Without that pricey (to me) modul.
Can I feed it somehow with an 192kHz I2S signal?
I have found this excel sheet, perhaps someone interested:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h5PMUBkldkpt1rCnAR4ZHYGZNeCe-vwIFyKWYMZWsX0/edit#gid=0
There are some data about MSB net.
Probably you have right, and I have no chance to use MSB network, without that modul.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h5PMUBkldkpt1rCnAR4ZHYGZNeCe-vwIFyKWYMZWsX0/edit#gid=0
There are some data about MSB net.
Probably you have right, and I have no chance to use MSB network, without that modul.
Gyuri
Looking at the pictures in previous post, i think that the modular PCB in the back side (this with the two XTALS) is the MSB Network board. Perhaps the only you need is to mount a simple CAT-5 connector in your DAC and to connect with 3 cables to the module. I can't see a CAT-5 connector in your DAC. Later using the necessary cable (XLR to CAT-5) you could connect a source providing... what???? I could suppose that a source with AES/EBU output could drive the DAC through the MSB Network? I am not sure.
Looking at the pictures in previous post, i think that the modular PCB in the back side (this with the two XTALS) is the MSB Network board. Perhaps the only you need is to mount a simple CAT-5 connector in your DAC and to connect with 3 cables to the module. I can't see a CAT-5 connector in your DAC. Later using the necessary cable (XLR to CAT-5) you could connect a source providing... what???? I could suppose that a source with AES/EBU output could drive the DAC through the MSB Network? I am not sure.
I think, I have misinterpreted the whole thing.
Now I reread that MSB network document, what you have mentioned above. If I understand it correctly now, it is a must, if you would like to feed a Platinum DAC's MSB Network input.
It is convert S/PDIF signal to proprietary MSB network signal.
Or, I can invent my own solution.
(No, I can't.) 🙂
Now I reread that MSB network document, what you have mentioned above. If I understand it correctly now, it is a must, if you would like to feed a Platinum DAC's MSB Network input.
It is convert S/PDIF signal to proprietary MSB network signal.
Or, I can invent my own solution.
(No, I can't.) 🙂
There is the digital input modul of Platinum Link DAC:
https://ywa9xw-bn1305.files.1drv.com/y3pAdbZkEtdDcwNI5PVD3xi1OrGV0CrlNb27v7s_UjssDUs51lpf-R1DFwFb4Jat-fbe1GZ7z5K5VzF6pZfmxPaywnQr6s3kqxFzfm0lLmh7srzSrHh6XV9XVnt9AImxZ2T5Oe3sFe2dcYIVs93gIgCZg/DSC_03650005.JPG?psid=1
https://ywa9xw-bn1305.files.1drv.com/y3pAdbZkEtdDcwNI5PVD3xi1OrGV0CrlNb27v7s_UjssDUs51lpf-R1DFwFb4Jat-fbe1GZ7z5K5VzF6pZfmxPaywnQr6s3kqxFzfm0lLmh7srzSrHh6XV9XVnt9AImxZ2T5Oe3sFe2dcYIVs93gIgCZg/DSC_03650005.JPG?psid=1
Top left you can see back of the two RJ-45 socket.
Also there is an empty SIP socket, hm, what can is it?
And why it is empty?
And what I can plug in it?
Also there is an empty SIP socket, hm, what can is it?
And why it is empty?
And what I can plug in it?
Gyuri
I think the instaled PCB into the DAC is simply the interface to the external MSB Network device. The Network device ensures connectivity to PC, i think that MSB uses the Ethernet port of PC (or of Modem) instead the USB as they do other constructors. And i am sure that you know, that there are not native digital recordings (CDs, DVDs etc) in so high sampling rate. The only way is to use a media player like JRiver or FOOBAR which can convert the sampling rate or a PCM file to DSD etc.
I think the instaled PCB into the DAC is simply the interface to the external MSB Network device. The Network device ensures connectivity to PC, i think that MSB uses the Ethernet port of PC (or of Modem) instead the USB as they do other constructors. And i am sure that you know, that there are not native digital recordings (CDs, DVDs etc) in so high sampling rate. The only way is to use a media player like JRiver or FOOBAR which can convert the sampling rate or a PCM file to DSD etc.
http://www.sound4sale.com/manuals/192upgradeManual.pdf
That is an upsampler modul to 192kHz/24 bit for any lower digital source.
And no, with MSB Network, there is nothing to do to PC network.
So this is a dead end for me.
That is an upsampler modul to 192kHz/24 bit for any lower digital source.
And no, with MSB Network, there is nothing to do to PC network.
So this is a dead end for me.
Greek joke: Plug your... bird in it! 😀😀😀Top left you can see back of the two RJ-45 socket.
Also there is an empty SIP socket, hm, what can is it?
And why it is empty?
And what I can plug in it?
Yeap, you got it. You could buy the upsampler module and instal into your CD player. That is a clean way without use of PC.http://www.sound4sale.com/manuals/192upgradeManual.pdf
That is an upsampler modul to 192kHz/24 bit for any lower digital source.
And no, with MSB Network, there is nothing to do to PC network.
So this is a dead end for me.
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