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Old 15th September 2015, 02:07 AM   #1
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Exclamation Curses to all of you...

...who indulged me and encouraged me to get a turntable and to build a nice preamp to go with it!

For a few months now, I have been happily listening to albums from my youth and have been having tons of fun buying albums on the cheap at the local flea market. I am holding each and every one of you accountable for my newfound disgust with CD and all other forms of digital music

Tonight, I finally got around to cuing up one of my albums along with the same title on CD. I adjusted the output level of my CD player (it has both fixed and variable outputs) to match that of my Pearl 2 phono stage, and sat down for a listen. The obvious and clear conclusion: that CD sounded terrible! Vocals were recessed, treble was missing, ... I could go on, but you know what I'm talking about. I thought "perhaps it was just that CD that sounded so terrible," so I cued up a few more, synchronized them, adjusted output levels, and found more of the same...

It is also fairly common for us to have music on in the background while things are going on around the house. Mostly, this is in the form of SiriusXM. We've had it for years, but since I've acquired my turntable, I've been spinning a few albums each evening while my wife is upstairs getting the girls ready for bed. Increasingly, I have been having an adverse reaction to switching from albums back to the satellite before choosing something to watch for the evening. More and more, the MP3 streaming satellite radio just sounds terrible! But it goes far beyond recessed vocals and missing treble, it just sounds horribly gritty and distorted.

So, I just wanted to say:

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Old 15th September 2015, 02:31 AM   #2
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Well, congrats on building a Pearl 2, and loving vinyl.

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Old 15th September 2015, 04:05 AM   #3
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I am holding each and every one of you accountable for my newfound disgust with CD
and all other forms of digital music.
Didn't you know, digital audio is perfect? It's the gross flaws in analog that are so appealing.
Your enjoyment is imaginary!
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Old 16th September 2015, 01:54 AM   #5
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Even worse than Sirius/XM is Apple Music. They sucked all the life out of it. Even my wife wanted me to turn it off because it sounded bad.

And my experience: I've owned the same Rega Planar 3 for almost 30 years now, and only recently decided to maybe upgrade it a bit using my bonus money, and only a small fraction of it. My wife was against the idea, because our records are in such horrible shape after going through a flooded basement. I put on a new cartridge, an Ortofon Quintet Blue mc, added the Tangospinner subplatter, belt and pulley, and added a Spin Clean, and was absolutely floored by the sound. I have put on Pandora once, Spotify maybe 3 times, and just recently tried Apple Music. I have NOT put on a CD or anything from my personal digital collection since February, even my hi-res! It just doesn't compare. I have a DVD-A of DSOTM that is the Alan Parsons quad version, a very nice recording, but the album just blows it away. And I can play everything LOUD without looking for the remote to turn it down (my system doesn't really have a remote).

Enjoy the ride! Oh, and get a Spin Clean. It isn't the last word on record cleaning but it is much better than doing nothing.
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Its not the CD that sounds terrible, its the player. Get yourself a better DAC and you'll see what I mean
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Old 16th September 2015, 03:19 AM   #7
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zacster: I'm using an SL-1200 with a AudioTechnica 150MLX MM cartridge, though I haven't gotten around to a tonearm rewire yet (current capacitance is about 350pF). I did get a Spin Clean and was quite shocked by the amount of debris that came from on 15-20 albums! Not perfect, but nothing hits the table without being cleaned first.

abraxalito: My CD player is clearly not the greatest, but is of reasonable quality. Its an Adcom GCD700. I have an external DAC for it that provides more warmth and three dimensionality than the built-in DAC, but still doesn't retrieve treble detail that the turn table does.
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Perhaps your external DAC is using one of the 'new fangled' S-D chips which (to my ears) add noise to the HF.
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Old 16th September 2015, 01:05 PM   #9
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Perhaps the DAC is part of the challenge. Excluding the *very* small audience of people in forums like this, my digital playback chain is superior to 99.999% (just a guess here, but with the number of MP3 streaming devices out there, I don't think I'm very far off) of what the rest of the world uses. And a 30 year old turn table with a phono stage that costs less than a cheap DAC blows it away.
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Old 16th September 2015, 02:10 PM   #10
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Didn't you know, digital audio is perfect? It's the gross flaws in analog that are so appealing.
True. Digital audio is more perfect, analog audio is more appealing.

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Your enjoyment is imaginary!
Not true. There's no imaginary enjoyment. You can enjoy having perfect audio system, you can enjoy listening to music, all is REAL
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