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Old 27th December 2010, 08:17 PM   #5581
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Great, fixed the problem (possible a cold joint), now I can say YES I am in the V1.2R Olimpos zone the best way to finish 2.010, thanks & congrats Salas for very good reg.

P.S. Really it's a esoteric stuff.
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The esoteric stuff is what is fun and what keeps it interesting. Always something to fidget with.....


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When listening to the v1.2r further, I am left with the impression of more revelation into the layers of the music. An excellent example would be Vangellis Heaven and Hell. In regards to the sound stage it hs gained more 3Dimensionallity. it is not as wide of a sound stage as the 1.2, x axis but the y axis as increased significantly in size. Back up singers are placed more accurately. Amanda McBroom for example. Amanda is up from and slightly to the right with the backup firmly to the left and behind the piano. Percussion is slightly left of center deep back of stage. oh and one of the backup singers has a tambourine ;-)
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That sounds like nearer to the essence of a performance.
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Old 27th December 2010, 08:47 PM   #5584
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I do the test with Pink Floyd "Wish you where here"...
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Old 27th December 2010, 08:57 PM   #5585
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Old 27th December 2010, 09:22 PM   #5586
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I remind, don't forget to re evaluate cart's load and riaa HF cap with every regulator type. You can strike even more tonal synergy and retain mostly positive characteristics in each one. He, that's really esoteric stuff.
Now you touched all the important variables at the same time

For each shunt version I found a different setup with rload and 15n cap

The differences are small but finetuning is the only way to reach the needed EQ.

I also found very important the overall mix of caps used for vref and vout in the shunts.

There is no fixed formulas.... and everything bends acording to the rest of the system.
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Old 27th December 2010, 10:39 PM   #5587
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Merlin attention. Denon 103R spec is not only misleading for compliance which we have found with FFT and test record is really 16, but also for output impedance which is also wrong and really is 19 Ohm. I measured it. Now I use 220 Ohm load and goes very fine with 1.2R fleshed out mid bass. As it happened it was nicely a bit rounded over with 150R for 1.2 and its ''faster'' tone, but 1.2R proves more musically correct as it put me in some suspicion. I will even weigh the cart If I will take it out for some other thing.
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Old 27th December 2010, 11:09 PM   #5588
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Scott, have you got your 103R dismantled so to weigh it? Also can you confirm that your sample isn't 14R Denon spec as mine isn't?
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Old 27th December 2010, 11:44 PM   #5589
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What the easiest way to measure the impedance without bursting the coil?
I actually have two of them. So I will do both.

At home, I do not have a scale with enough resolution to weigh, but I will be heading to work the next day or so and will weigh them then.
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Old 27th December 2010, 11:47 PM   #5590
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Don't know, me I used my DVM and it took it. I had to know.
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