John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part II

[john curl]

Well, the people who bug me the most, about being on this thread, are: Jack Bybee, who could care less about ill informed people in his field, Hal Finley, my Vendetta Research business partner, who would rather me putting in time on circuit details on our latest circuit board, and now, Mitch Cotter, who continually reminds me that there are better things to do, than suffer 'critics' , such as yourself. They won't come here, and I don't blame them. You are not missing much, as you would not believe them, in any case.

[anatech]

Hi John,
Now, about these last comments ...

... but the situation changed when Bob unexpectedly died, without finishing about 6 units that we pre-sold. This put the burden on me to finish them, myself, and this took almost 1 year, after his death.

That is a private matter that has nothing to do with anything. Are you setting up a defense for something?

I came to this thread to put out some immature criticisms of the CTC design that came from a number of instant critics, most of whom, are not here, anymore.

Given that no details were ever given clearly, I can't see why this would be. You did make a big deal out of the case being made from a solid block of metal and there was a discussion about shielding properties and cable openings. You finally defended the case by saying your customers deserve a fancy, expensive case for what they are paying (can't argue that). But the case was really the only detail know. Well, then there was "air wiring", Teflon insulation, a particular switch you like and power supply noise reduction. Did I miss anything relating to the Blowtorch?

I then hoped to extend the topic of this thread to cover most areas of audio circuit design and promote what seems to work to a greater audience.

Well, yes. You went off-topic several times. But, it's okay when you do it.

I was told, by close friends and associates, that this was a serious waste of time, and that I should keep my design ideas to myself, since I needed to continue consulting.

You have not divulged any of your secrets. Any time you get close, you always tell us that they are your trade secrets and you can not tell us. I guess your people have been on your case about this for years? We accepted this from you, but it got pretty silly. Eventually you got to the point where you said "I'm designing a new project, but I can't tell you anything". Childish. Most new developments I have seen over the years are rehashes of what was done earlier in time. In other words, public domain.

Now, I had hoped for some spirited discussion, but things tended to get out of hand, and if I had a lick of common sense, i would have dumped this project, long ago.

All you have ever been asked to do was to answer questions in an honest and straight forward manner. Letting everyone know you have emailed the odd other member with information doesn't score you any points, and it's pretty childish as well.

Now, where has this gone wrong? Well, this thread has had its ups and downs, but lately I can't seem to get a word in edgewise without a group of people, who could just ignore me, instead deciding that I am 'poisoning' the audio community with 'unproven' ideas and deviating designers from the 'true path'

John, you have demonstrated that you can easily get a word in broadside with no difficulty at all. Get real please, complain about things that are true. You are not ignored for one, so let's ignore that comment. You are not deviating anyone, so that's hogwash. You do put ideas forward without advancing any information that can be verified in any way, so what do you expect? The only poisoning you are guilty of are the constant insults and put downs of people around you here. In fact, I have really only had two issues with you. Your insults and put downs, and a complete lack of information beyond a statement from you.

John, answer me honestly now. Would you ever accept a statement of fact from anyone without any way to verify that what you are being told is true? Most people wouldn't without some way to check the details. The more someone says "it's true, you must believe me but I can't prove this fact", the more you see skepticism in your audience. It's natural and healthy. Otherwise, you get a myth something like the "cold fusion" silliness that made it's rounds.

...when I talk to audio friends, designers, and people in the audio industry, we have a completely different conversation, where we compare subtle factors, often independently discovered, that there is very little 'proof' of, as to why these factors make any difference at all.

Well, could be a "birds of a feather" thing there.
More seriously, there have been many times when people around you have agreed with you on some things. I have agreed with you on many occasions. But, if you expect everyone to sit in rapture with every syllable that slips from your tongue, you should have become an evangelist. Most people will not suspend reason in order to accept on faith what you often want to pass as fact. If you had reasonable expectations, we wouldn't be having posts like this at all. I can only assume that you are either unreasonable in what you expect from people or you are winding people up for your own personal jollies.

Back to discussing the subtleties of quality preamp design, or continue the aimless diversions that just confuse the issue?

Well, I'd suggest working with the members here, many who have expressed an interest in helping you in investigating these findings you've made. If you wish to keep things focused, why not try to answer questions honestly and with full disclosure (except where it differentiates your designs from others). Of course, that may mean that you can not discuss anything as everything represents your trade secrets. It's up to you to define acceptable discussion areas and fully participate.

I'll bet you lose more IP by having your trash examined than talking about things here. That's if anything you know is worth having your trash examined. John, I am not kidding about this.

-Chris

[anatech]

Hi John,

... who continually reminds me that there are better things to do, than suffer 'critics' , such as yourself.

Since when am I a critic?

Again, I only ask for direct and truthful answers to questions and a cessation of your insults and put downs towards other members. Check the posting history.

In reality, I have attempted many times to assist you, clarify your statements and most lately, to assist you in running an experiment again. I just wanted to be careful about what was done so that it stood the highest chance of agreeing with your previous work. In other words, I gave you every opportunity to mold the experiment to your wishes. I could have made some assumptions and run what I thought was close, then beat you over the head with the results.

Do you even understand that some people want to help you? That includes me, because you have said time and time again how difficult things are for you.

John, what do you want? I mean, aside from blind acceptance of everything you say.

-Chris

[stinius]

Originally Posted by john curl

Now, taking a deep breath, I will attempt to remind everyone as to why this thread has grown so 'popular'

John

If this thread should be solely related to the CTC BT preamp it would have died out a long time ago, don’t you think so as well?

It’s a very lively thread at that other forum (about one post a week) the good thing is of course that you don’t have to waste your time answering all the silly posts by stupid pitchfork villagers.

Have fun

[john curl]

Wow!

Anatech, I would really appreciate it, if you would not do my 'inventory'. You don't know me, and apparently you cannot understand what I am trying to convey.
I don't need this, and maybe you should reconsider 'helping' me like this.

[anatech]

Hi John,

Anatech, I would really appreciate it, if you would not do my 'inventory'.

I was simply answering your comments in a recent post of yours.

I would really appreciate it if ....
You treated people with respect, and ...
You focused on answering questions put to you from other members.

You don't know me, and apparently you cannot understand what I am trying to convey.

No, I don't know you, just as you don't know me.
Does anyone know what you are trying to convey John?

I don't need this, and maybe you should reconsider 'helping' me like this.

I don't imagine any of us "need this" to be honest with you. Consider one thing though. I have some respect for you and your accomplishments. It's sad that you do not respect many people here. That is one thing I am sure of, given your history of posting here.

John, I've been straight with you the entire time. There is no reason to dance around, just get to the point you want to make. But, be realistic in what you expect the responses to be. Want to discuss a subject? Then, understand that intellectual give and take is necessary in order to discuss any subject.

-Chris (aka anatech)

[john curl]

Stinius, I don't know exactly where you sit, but it looks like pretty much on the fence between two contesting neighbors.
I did try to expand the breadth of this thread by bringing in power amps, and general design philosophy, since I think that it is all related.
I was opposed on this by some, because "I do not own the thread" as someone else started it, and so forth. I trudged forward, anyway.

[Greg Erskine]

Hey john,

I would like to thank you for "wasting your time" over the last few years. YOU are the catalyst that has kept this most interesting and worthwhile thread going. I think your "investment of time" is appreciated by the thousands that are following this thread.

Now I see what Chris is saying and agree, but the friction is an important part of this thread, it stimulates the debate. So John I ask you to take it on the chin and continue as you have always done. I think we have struck a very good balance in this thread through the right combination of technical discussions, varied opinions, heated debates, historical facts and personal interactions.

regards

[Joshua_G]

Chris (aka anatech),
Who appointed you to "help" others against their will?
Who appointed you to determine for others what's right and what's wrong for them, what's good and what's bad for them?
Who appointed you to educate others?

Don't you see you are a self-appointed righteous?

I love to see all you may contribute to technical issue. When you have nothing technical to contribute – do what's appropriate in such cases (shut up?).

[john curl]

I suspect, Joshua, that you understand me, and while we have never met in person, we have talked on the phone.
You are also an admitted 'technician' that I have come to believe actually essentially understands what I am trying to say here. Trust me, that is a relief, when I get so much 'static' from many others.
I try to convey, without math or schematics, HERE, because I have no good and direct way to put them up. Also, I don't like to publish my latest schematics, or even patent #'s by others, as this leads to intellectual loss of trade secrets, that my associates and I don't want to give it out to our direct competitors.
Also, most of what I wish to convey here to 'help' others is expressed as ideas, anyway, unless someone demands PROOF! Well, take it or leave it, everyone, I can't give more info. than I give. If it is not 'enough' then change to another thread. Is that so hard?