John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part II

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GK

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So the majority is wrong again. I am glad that I live in a free country where a minority is not allowed to rule and dictate how I live, love and listen! The deadend ** is the constant drone of those that can not hear difference in anything. Maybe we should all have table radios and be done with it :)


This is getting inane. If the audiophiles could scientifically demonstrate that they can hear the ppb differences between a tantalum resistor and a metal film resistor (just for example), then there would be something to investigate further. But they can’t, and any such claimed ability just remains implausible B.S.


I believe that this was his way of saying that these speakers do a better job of this illusion, than any others that he has owned or heard before. I don't think that anyone is under the delusion that there are actual people standing in their living room with instruments :D


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For crying out loud, he freaking wrote:
"With my speakers the impression is that there's a live performance in my living room. I cannot ask for more than that."
 
First Joshua, now you again. Who stated that they cannot hear a difference in anything? Are you so unsecure that you need to flight into making things up?

jd

Well you are the one of the few that I have seen state that they can hear differences in anything on this board. It seems that most posts call anyone that hears anything "delusional" and "biased" in some manner.
 
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A pure tubed component (without SS in its signal path) is far more involving than any SS that I have ever heard. Bob Carver is a designer of note now?

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Bob messed up his ss amp and the editors of Stereophile couldn't hear a difference. That's all. Where are your documented examples?
And sure, go ahead and tell me that Stereophiles editors got it wrong or something like that.

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Well you are the one of the few that I have seen state that they can hear differences in anything on this board. It seems that most posts call anyone that hears anything "delusional" and "biased" in some manner.

Find them! Hint: they're not there! There are LOTS of people that maintain that if there is an audible difference, they can measure it. You chose to ignore that little detail and make up that 'these objectivists cannot hear a difference in anything'. Yeah, sure.

jd
 
This is getting inane. If the audiophiles could scientifically demonstrate that they can hear the ppb differences between a tantalum resistor and a metal film resistor (just for example), then there would be something to investigate further. But they can’t, and any such claimed ability just remains implausible B.S.

I guess the manufacturers that use one type or the other to voice their products are also delusional :)





For crying out loud, he freaking wrote:
"With my speakers the impression is that there's a live performance in my living room. I cannot ask for more than that."

Again i totally understand what he is trying to say. You take it literally :)
 
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Find them! Hint: they're not there! There are LOTS of people that maintain that if there is an audible difference, they can measure it. You chose to ignore that little detail and make up that 'these objectivists cannot hear a difference in anything'. Yeah, sure.

jd

Find one person that could hear the differences in capacitors or resistors, if the circuit measures the same, that bases what they hear on measurements.
 

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I guess the manufacturers that use on type or the other to voice their products are also delusional :)


Well in that regard, usually a combination (each to varying degrees) of delusion, stupidity, self-interest and con artistry.


Again i totally understand what he is trying to say. You take it literally :)


It was a literal statement. :rolleyes:

I'm going to bed.
 
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Bob Carver is a designer of note now?

He sells in a day what the high end guys sell in a decade. Majority rules.:D

But seriously, yes, he has done some amazingly creative and innovative work in both electronics and speakers. His ideas are widely copied and highly influential. That doesn't mean I think it's all good (Sturgeon's Law and all), but his concepts have remade the industry, from compact subwoofers to digital amps to dynamic planar/ribbons. Not the case for the high end niche cult figures who chunk some goofball designer parts into a 1947 design and call it a miracle. Nor potzers like me who do competent but straightforward engineering. Just because you're not his fanboy (and AFAIK, you've never even designed so much as an RCA plug) doesn't diminish the astonishing range and quantity of equipment he's designed and sold, nor its remarkable innovation.

Disclosure: I have two Sunfire 500W amps running my subwoofers. They work superbly well, run cool, and don't blow up.
 

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Now you make me cite Homer :boggled:

Homer Simpson said:
Lisa, vampires are make-believe, like Elves, Gremlins, and Eskimos.

And here's wisdom, some more Homer quotes.

Homer Simpson said:
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true...

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'you're making a scene.

I think Smithers picked me because of my motivational skills. Everyone says they have to work a lot harder when I’m around.
 
BTW I agree that the amp should be transparent in the sense that it should neither add nor subtract from the signal it is processing. This apparently is different from Joshua's opinion (if I interprete it correctly, but I'm sure he will tell me if I don't) who stated that he doesn't want accuracy but 'lifelike sound', which by deduction is then sound changed by the amp or whatever.


An amp reproduces lifelike sound when its' output signal is an exact replica of the input signal in all respect, but amplitude. Such a thing is unattainable, however, the strive is to attain it as much as possible.
 
Well in that regard, usually a combination (each to varying degrees) of delusion, stupidity, self-interest and con artistry.

So if someone did not like the sound of something that you built, they must be delusional? Maybe they would consider you a con artist, delusional or equally as stupid. This goes both ways :)


I'm going to bed.
Good night Glenda :)
 
He sells in a day what the high end guys sell in a decade. Majority rules.:D

That was good :)

But seriously, yes, he has done some amazingly creative and innovative work in both electronics and speakers. His ideas are widely copied and highly influential. That doesn't mean I think it's all good (Sturgeon's Law and all), but his concepts have remade the industry, from compact subwoofers to digital amps to dynamic planar/ribbons. Not the case for the high end niche cult figures who chunk some goofball designer parts into a 1947 design and call it a miracle. Nor potzers like me who do competent but straightforward engineering. Just because you're not his fanboy (and AFAIK, you've never even designed so much as an RCA plug) doesn't diminish the astonishing range and quantity of equipment he's designed and sold, nor its remarkable innovation.

Maybe remarkable in the scientific sense, but in execution, the stew was missing the meat :) I have designed some multi cable fiber optics connectors for military use with AutoCAD, when I I worked for a fiber optics company in 2001. Does that count? I was given the spec's for diameter and length, thread pitch and over all length of the connectors (male and female). They had to be environmentally isolated (weatherproof). They accept the drawings and they were produced, as far as I know.
 
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