My version of Zen I/V. R3-4 use 1.5k. Distortion is low and close to original version reading. Without C8/C11, the distortion is very high at 1% level!
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Hi, spencer, I see you are using PCM1702, their Iout is +/- 1.2mA, has your I / V been tested with higher currents? I guess there would be two or three pairs of 2SK170 / 2SJ74 then.View attachment 1020268
My version of Zen I/V. R3-4 use 1.5k. Distortion is low and close to original version reading. Without C8/C11, the distortion is very high at 1% level!
Details here: http://www.fetaudio.com/archives/3032
Igor
I have always been bothered by the ZEN IV's lack of PSRR and signal coupling caps.
I know it was a design choice in favour of simplicity.
So what is the price of getting rid of those ?
2 more MOSFETs for folded cascode, and 2 JFETs as CCS.
(The output buffer is of course optional.)
Apart from no cap in signal path and significantly improved PSRR, the input JFETs now see a very constant drain voltage.
That in turns means lower distortion.
Cheers,
Patrick
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I know it was a design choice in favour of simplicity.
So what is the price of getting rid of those ?
2 more MOSFETs for folded cascode, and 2 JFETs as CCS.
(The output buffer is of course optional.)
Apart from no cap in signal path and significantly improved PSRR, the input JFETs now see a very constant drain voltage.
That in turns means lower distortion.
Cheers,
Patrick
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HI Patrick,I have always been bothered by the ZEN IV's lack of PSRR and signal coupling caps.
I know it was a design choice in favour of simplicity.
So what is the price of getting rid of those ?
2 more MOSFETs for folded cascode, and 2 JFETs as CCS.
(The output buffer is of course optional.)
Apart from no cap in signal path and significantly improved PSRR, the input JFETs now see a very constant drain voltage.
That in turns means lower distortion.
Cheers,
Patrick
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Thank you for sharing. Any measurement data to show how much better is the distortion? Very interesting!
Best Regards,
Spencer
Have not built yet. Need to get PCB made first.
(Most shops closed for CNY)
But I expect the simulations give you a good relative comparison between the two.
Patrick
PS I have changed rail voltages and resistor values to give the same 2Vrms out for 1mA current, for direct comparison.
(Most shops closed for CNY)
But I expect the simulations give you a good relative comparison between the two.
Patrick
PS I have changed rail voltages and resistor values to give the same 2Vrms out for 1mA current, for direct comparison.
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I did the bread board before I make the PCB.
Sorry not too sure what you mean by generate the signal current! I assume you talk about creating the input current source. I use the signal generator and in series with a 1k2 resistor. Then measure the Vrms at the input to estimate the input resistance of IV as well as the input current. Of course the signal generator input level must also be know.
Sorry not too sure what you mean by generate the signal current! I assume you talk about creating the input current source. I use the signal generator and in series with a 1k2 resistor. Then measure the Vrms at the input to estimate the input resistance of IV as well as the input current. Of course the signal generator input level must also be know.
I have always been bothered by the ZEN IV's lack of PSRR and signal coupling caps.
So what is the price of getting rid of those ?
2 more MOSFETs for folded cascode, and 2 JFETs as CCS.
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Here you go, first proto. Test pending.
Cheers,
Patrick
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