The new Port Mann Bridge at 65m (10 lanes) surpasses the Sydney Harbour Bridge of 49m.
Set to officially open in December 2012 (8 lanes), 3 lanes for east bound traffic are already in use as of yesterday. 10 lanes will open a year after the official opening as they have to demolish the old bridge before the last 2 lanes can be built.
Port Mann Bridge
Set to officially open in December 2012 (8 lanes), 3 lanes for east bound traffic are already in use as of yesterday. 10 lanes will open a year after the official opening as they have to demolish the old bridge before the last 2 lanes can be built.
Port Mann Bridge
Those cable-stay bridges seem to be quite popular right now - we have some here in the St Louis (Missouri, USA) region and one under construction over the Mississippi River. They certainly have a striking visual appearance. As Dr Henry Petroski said in his recent column "Everyone Loves Good Design", in DesignNews at < http://www.designnews.com/author.as...&dfpPParams=ind_183,aid_249589&dfpLayout=blog >:
Even so, when I see cable-stayed bridges, the multiple cables give me a nagging thought that it's an overly complex design. As with any design innovation there will probably be a failure at some point. This, in turn, will lead to better understanding of the design and even more capable implementations - as the 1940 failure of the Tacoma Narrows suspension bridge eventually resulted in the successful but much more challenging spans at Mackinac, Akashi-Kaiko, et al. We need to have faith that some alert engineers will identify potential failures and avert catastrophes.
Dale
p.s. - In case you haven't discovered him, Petroski is definitely worth reading for his perspectives on engineering philosophy and the design process.
I'm surprised he didn't mention this Port Mann span.Unlike buildings, which hide their engineering behind architectural facades, bridges tend to lay bare their structural design features. The lines by which forces are directed and transferred are exposed and open to admiration, exploration, and fascination.
Even so, when I see cable-stayed bridges, the multiple cables give me a nagging thought that it's an overly complex design. As with any design innovation there will probably be a failure at some point. This, in turn, will lead to better understanding of the design and even more capable implementations - as the 1940 failure of the Tacoma Narrows suspension bridge eventually resulted in the successful but much more challenging spans at Mackinac, Akashi-Kaiko, et al. We need to have faith that some alert engineers will identify potential failures and avert catastrophes.
Dale
p.s. - In case you haven't discovered him, Petroski is definitely worth reading for his perspectives on engineering philosophy and the design process.
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I understand that when the fixed link to PEI was planned, there was a suggestion for a similar (although narrower) cable-stay bridge in the center section. The cables were to be painted a bright green, producing a "Span of Green Cables".
(Canadian joke, see Lucy Maud Montgomery)
(Canadian joke, see Lucy Maud Montgomery)
All those people going somewhere. That's a lot of bridge!
to Timmies for double-doubles and honey glazed crullers of course
as Cal or nezbleu would say, it's a canuck thing
all kidding aside, the egg white breakfast sandwich on English biscuit is not the worst way to start your day
Dale
p.s. - In case you haven't discovered him, Petroski is definitely worth reading for his perspectives on engineering philosophy and the design process.
Just am reading Petroski's "To Engineer is Human - the role of failure in successful design". The cover has a great picture of that historical bridge failure. Great read, BTW.
jan didden
If the towers were thicker, they wouldn't need so many cables to hold them up.
Minneapolis has a new 10 lane bridge, although for the purposes of your metric, it is probably 2x 30 meter bridges
If you look at it, I am guessing the 65m part is where it goes around the two towers.
It's the only cable suspension bridge that I've seen that uses 4 cables at each stage. We have others in the area with the more traditional 2 as much of the world does. As far as the widest bridge in the world part goes, we didn't heard that until recently, or maybe I hadn't paid attention. I have watched the bridge go up from my office window since day 1. Well actually for the first year all I heard was the pile driving which, in it's own right, was kinda cool. They used the, what I'm gonna call, the diesel type. Maybe someone can tell me what it's really called but it's the one that uses a fuel rather than a crane. The rhythm is faster so while I am doing my typing, it keeps me in synch.
It's been a great thing for those of us who watch those Discovery channel or Nat Geo shows on this sort of thing. I am guessing it will be there one day.
Oh, and uh Ron...I am of the ilk that uses standard measures still, along with the metric, even though Canada went to metric uh, I don't know, 30+ years ago. I understand both but the tape I use when building things is still standard measure. Old habits die hard.
Cheers.
It's the only cable suspension bridge that I've seen that uses 4 cables at each stage. We have others in the area with the more traditional 2 as much of the world does. As far as the widest bridge in the world part goes, we didn't heard that until recently, or maybe I hadn't paid attention. I have watched the bridge go up from my office window since day 1. Well actually for the first year all I heard was the pile driving which, in it's own right, was kinda cool. They used the, what I'm gonna call, the diesel type. Maybe someone can tell me what it's really called but it's the one that uses a fuel rather than a crane. The rhythm is faster so while I am doing my typing, it keeps me in synch.
It's been a great thing for those of us who watch those Discovery channel or Nat Geo shows on this sort of thing. I am guessing it will be there one day.
Oh, and uh Ron...I am of the ilk that uses standard measures still, along with the metric, even though Canada went to metric uh, I don't know, 30+ years ago. I understand both but the tape I use when building things is still standard measure. Old habits die hard.
Cheers.
It doesn't look very musical. If all cables contribute the same upward force, how are their frequencies related?
Toumani Diabaté - Cantelowes live at El Real Alcazar - YouTube
I know it's small, but I still found this scary
mayl 2003 - my london diary
on a motorcycle in a howling wind, because it looks so flimsy and there's not much to stop you falling off. I figured that the frequency of each cable must be similar, so if they all resonate in alternate phase, the deck would ripple and snap in the middle and concertina towards the pillars.
Dirt cheap and easy to monitor and maintain, by the looks. No hollow sections or buried cables. Perhaps it's the kind of thing that analysis has recently become able to pronounce safe?
Another scary example
Millau Viaduct - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mayl 2003 - my london diary
That's a smaller version. We have those too, as mentioned it's a popular style. The ones around that are single and double cable include both auto and train bridges:
File:AlexFraserBridge.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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North Arm Bridge, Vancouver | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
That's a smaller version. We have those too, as mentioned it's a popular style. The ones around that are single and double cable include both auto and train bridges:
File:AlexFraserBridge.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Google Image Result for http://ahamedia.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/golden-ears-bridge1.jpg%3Fw%3D600
Google Image Result for http://www.partnershipsbc.ca/files-4/images/Pitt-River-Bridge-Complete_021411_Lrg.jpg
Google Image Result for http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1295/751626532_c764d34e15.jpg
North Arm Bridge, Vancouver | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Not a widest bridge... but certainly a bridge story. Just after last year of University me & the GF were coming down the 101 (from the Notyh) into San Fransisco, it was my 1st visit, it was after sunset and it was foggy... "the Golden Gatr bridge has to be coming up soon, oh there are the tool booths, here it is". Wasn't long before we realized that the toll booths were on the south end of the bridge. We did go back and do it on a sunny day.
dave
dave
mostly live golden gate bridge cam -
i have no idea.
as an uneducated guess,
i'm confident that they will all be tuned before the bridge is opened ...
Construction Cams | Bay Bridge Info
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
If all cables contribute the same upward force,
how are their frequencies related?
i have no idea.
as an uneducated guess,
i'm confident that they will all be tuned before the bridge is opened ...
Construction Cams | Bay Bridge Info
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Summer time? The bridge can really get lost on a foggy summer or fall day. Hope you enjoyed it on your return visit. It's fun to walk across, too.Wasn't long before we realized that the toll booths were on the south end of the bridge. We did go back and do it on a sunny day
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