From my experience with the smaller TB of this line, I'd go with A10.2 as well (because it is, i'd guess, a better driver). Bob at CSS has stock units, i have treated units (still less than the TB)
I'd also suggest you get yourself a sheet of Baltic Birch plywood and forget about the MDF.
dave
I'd also suggest you get yourself a sheet of Baltic Birch plywood and forget about the MDF.
dave
Thanks planet10
I will look at the alpair 10.2.
It should work on a small BR or sealed small cabinet. I jus would like to see the polar response plot. Does some people have a link concerning this?
By the way many thanks for your patience
Mr. Brines used this driver as well
M10-A10
wow i dont much like the HF above 5k on those measurements...
That's whay I see too
no dave you misunderstood or i was unclear. Marks measurements are honest warts n all, but arent too bad. I was referring to linked Brines measurements. These follow the general trend, and i agree that they show alot of combing.
Sergeloc, i would imagine a simple 1st order LP placed around 5k would correct the on axix rise, whilst maintaining the favourable off axis hehavior. Should you wish to do such a thing, that is.
Sergeloc, i would imagine a simple 1st order LP placed around 5k would correct the on axix rise, whilst maintaining the favourable off axis hehavior. Should you wish to do such a thing, that is.
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I was talking about Brines measurements as well.
Sorry. Without a quote as reference one usually assumes the last post on the subject.
dave
wow i dont much like the HF above 5k on those measurements...
That's whay I see too
Yeah, I can't believe the top end is that ragged.
That's a gated measurement?
Maybe if the measurement was taken an inch away, because it looks like comb filtering
Have any of you gentlemen actually listened to music on these drivers in an average domestic environment?
and y'all can save the time advising correction of my tone / perceived attitude - I already know I'm an obstreperous prick (even if I need to spell check the word)
Get over your defensive attitude, it wasnt a critique, or personal attack.
Likewise, i'm sure! What part of my post was a personal attack, and the response wasn't even aimed at you. My response was to all of those who demand "raw" data as if 1/3 octave plots are hiding something. They are not. Psychoacoustics is a mature science. Our ears smooth volume to about 1/3 octave and 1/3 octave plots are representative of what we actually here. Case in point: Look at an in-room FR plot below 200Hz. It never actually sounds that bad, does it?
Bob
Have any of you gentlemen actually listened to music on these drivers in an average domestic environment?
and y'all can save the time advising correction of my tone / perceived attitude - I already know I'm an obstreperous prick (even if I need to spell check the word)
We are not commenting on the sound of the driver, or the way it truly measures. We are referring to Mr. Brines measurements.
Please reread the details and progression of the last few posts.
My response was to all of those who demand "raw" data as if 1/3 octave plots are hiding something. They are not. Psychoacoustics is a mature science. Our ears smooth volume to about 1/3 octave and 1/3 octave plots are representative of what we actually here. Case in point: Look at an in-room FR plot below 200Hz. It never actually sounds that bad, does it?
Bob
I completely agree.
We are not commenting on the sound of the driver, or the way it truly measures. We are referring to Mr. Brines measurements.
Please reread the details and progression of the last few posts.
Thanks - after re-reading all posts in this thread (twice) I still don't see an answer to my snarky question 4 posts above. For those that couldn't give a rip (i.e. myself for one) as to where/by whom / how measurements may have been made, who among the posters in this thread have heard the 10.2s? Should someone reading this thread need to search for all posts by others to answer that simple question?
I know of 3 who have for sure.
Just go with the alpair 10.2
It's about the same size and it's a proven driver with some independent measurements.
That TB is way overpriced and unproven.
It's well proven
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Bausatz Omnes Horn 6 - Lautsprecherbau von blue planet acoustic
and you can not talk about overpriced if you haven't heard them.
this is overpriced
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALTEC-755A-LOUDSPEAKER-PAIR-EXACT-MATCH-2-9-DCR-CLEAN-AR1-/170920829896
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It's well proven
Perfect Line ungefaltet Bausatz - Lautsprecherbau von blue planet acoustic
Bausatz Omnes Horn 6 - Lautsprecherbau von blue planet acoustic
and you can not talk about overpriced if you haven't heard them.
this is overpriced
Altec 755A Loudspeaker Pair Exact Match 2 9 DCR Clean AR1 | eBay
I was speaking of independent measurements.
I don't see any measurements on the sites you listed,
nor any reviews for that matter, not that I would care too much about those anyway. (I like measurements)
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