Chris: Where ya getting 5x5 BB @ $48 per?
Don
Either Reimer Hardwoods or PJ White in Victoria
the benefits of trade pricing for millwork manufacturers - when you buy several $000,000/ year per supplier, the price (and sometimes service) can get pretty good
whenever I'm forced to pay retail for sheet goods or hardware, I get sticker shock
Well, I think he said $103.33 per sheet, so wisely or foolishly, I ordered 3, giving me lots of room for screw ups, and maybe a second pair to flog off on someone to help offset the cost... (Oh, I can just see how well that's gonna work out!).
Europly is what he said they call it in vancouver, but it's listed as Baltic Birch on the website.
If I'd been courageous, or knowledgeable, I'd use something else, or get some 5 x 5 9mm thick BB, and fabricate the necessary lengths for side and back panels. At this point in my woodworking/speaker building career, I thought it was probably better to just take the $$ hit, and go with the specifications as closely as I can.
Europly is what he said they call it in vancouver, but it's listed as Baltic Birch on the website.
If I'd been courageous, or knowledgeable, I'd use something else, or get some 5 x 5 9mm thick BB, and fabricate the necessary lengths for side and back panels. At this point in my woodworking/speaker building career, I thought it was probably better to just take the $$ hit, and go with the specifications as closely as I can.
Well, I think he said $103.33 per sheet, so wisely or foolishly, I ordered 3, giving me lots of room for screw ups, and maybe a second pair to flog off on someone to help offset the cost... (Oh, I can just see how well that's gonna work out!).
Europly is what he said they call it in vancouver, but it's listed as Baltic Birch on the website.
yes, the generic and registered trademarked names (i.e. Appleply) can get a bit confusing - even the sales staff isn't always sure
I've avoided projects taller than 1524mm for the exact same reason - the last time I tried a 4x8 sheet of "affordable" high-ply count material, it turned out to be an inferior Chinese import - delaminations, voids and variations of thickness well over 1mm across the width a sheet.If I'd been courageous, or knowledgeable, I'd use something else, or get some 5 x 5 9mm thick BB, and fabricate the necessary lengths for side and back panels. At this point in my woodworking/speaker building career, I thought it was probably better to just take the $$ hit, and go with the specifications as closely as I can.
But the particular product you've quoted is a domestic (North American) mill, so no worries there.
I've avoided projects taller than 1524mm for the exact same reason
I've been trying to get a set of Sachiko to the top of the queue for a loonnngg time. I figure a double outside wall of 15mm would make it fine to piece them together.
dave
I've been trying to get a set of Sachiko to the top of the queue for a loonnngg time.
yup, it's been too easy to get distracted with smaller boxes
I figure a double outside wall of 15mm would make it fine to piece them together.
dave
even 2 lap-jointed layers of 12mm should be substantial enough for the side panels, wouldn't you think?
even 2 lap-jointed layers of 12mm should be substantial enough for the side panels, wouldn't you think?
Is it a pile of 12 or 15 we have left? 2 12 would be >20% fatter than spec
I was just thinking of our goal to standardize on 15mm as much as possible.
dave
The sole suppliers of BB here, is Windsor Plywood, @ $75 (can) per 5 x 5 sheet.
Don
Maybe you want to add some to your shopping list when you come down to pick up the FE167eN? Almost all spotted.
dave
The sole suppliers of BB here, is Windsor Plywood, @ $75 (can) per 5 x 5 sheet.
Don
so there's a suggestion of retailer's margin
(OK to be honest, some of our millwork jobs have similar gross margins, but by the time you allocate fixed and variable overheads as well as direct COGs, well, you're on the short side of 20%)
Is it a pile of 12 or 15 we have left? 2 12 would be >20% fatter than spec
both
I was just thinking of our goal to standardize on 15mm as much as possible.
dave
and I'm thinking of moving them around - even at a fraction of the weight of MDF, at 6 ft tall and 18" deep, these will be awkward enough
Dave: Shoot me an e-mail when they've got their full dose of measles.Maybe you want to add some to your shopping list when you come down to pick up the FE167eN? Almost all spotted.
dave
The BB will be on my list.
(My wife says 5 x 5 won't fit in her Golf!)
Don
(My wife says 5 x 5 won't fit in her Golf!)
I'm sure if necessary a quick trip thru Chris' tablesaw could solve that.
dave
Dave: Shoot me an e-mail when they've got their full dose of measles.
The BB will be on my list.
(My wife says 5 x 5 won't fit in her Golf!)
Don
I know a guy who nose a guy with a couple of table saws - we could rough cut the sheets to more convenient sizes.
edit:
synchronicity!
DAVE:
btw, I note that the Saburo et al Moose BVR drawings were dimensioned before we normalized to 15mm, so without recalculating, the internals would still need to be 18mm, with overlapped double layers of 12mm for side and [/quote] back panels
considering the labor (even at 25c/hr ), the europly is starting to sound more attractive by the minute
btw, I note that the Saburo et al Moose BVR drawings were dimensioned before we normalized to 15mm, so without recalculating, the internals would still need to be 18mm, with overlapped double layers of 12mm for side and back panels
I could convert those from 19.1 mm internals to 15mm, it would ba a good exercise, but we may well want to stick with 18mm, that is a pretty wide unbraced span (they would still need a bit of recalc).
dave
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