to move as much air you would need twice the excursion on the 10 to do the same spl as the 12 does ! lol
ppl say things without any proof
you can port them..if u want to spend heaps on PRs you can... 10$ pvc does the same job.
just use winisd,and make massive port,like mine
40cmx10cm x 95cm long
:-D 25hz tuning on jbl
it looks like im getting a JBL2226H like www.speakerbuilding.com *almighty subwoofer* article.
ppl say things without any proof
you can port them..if u want to spend heaps on PRs you can... 10$ pvc does the same job.
just use winisd,and make massive port,like mine
40cmx10cm x 95cm long
:-D 25hz tuning on jbl
it looks like im getting a JBL2226H like www.speakerbuilding.com *almighty subwoofer* article.
SkinnyBoy said:
I like the 44mm X-max and the huge surround..whats shiva?? lol I'lkl Take the peerless ANYDAY!!
ur jokn about the shiva right? lol www.adireaudio.com
XLS 12inch -its 12.5mm one way peak
44mm sounds like- 2way Xmech
personaly i prefer a labhorn,il get one,ONEDAY!
mikee12345 said:to move as much air you would need twice the excursion on the 10 to do the same spl as the 12 does ! lol
ppl say things without any proof
you can port them..if u want to spend heaps on PRs you can... 10$ pvc does the same job.
just use winisd,and make massive port,like mine
40cmx10cm x 95cm long
:-D 25hz tuning on jbl
it looks like im getting a JBL2226H like www.speakerbuilding.com *almighty subwoofer* article.
umm.. okay.. lol
I want a small box..... I want one not much bigger than my current one, which is about 50litres.... I want something I can move to a friends house, that looks good, and that has no chance of me stuffing it um.. lol I considered getting 2 Peerless XLSs instead of getting 1 and the passive radiators, then makeing some nice big (about 2 meter high) speaker boxes..
do a 4 way system or something.. lolmikee12345 said:
ur jokn about the shiva right? lol www.adireaudio.com
XLS 12inch -its 12.5mm one way peak
44mm sounds like- 2way Xmech
personaly i prefer a labhorn,il get one,ONEDAY!
Yeah, my mistake... lol, its 44mm Xmech, and 12.5mm X-max.. which is better than my subs current 3mm Xmax..
lolNope, lol, never heard of shiva.. lol
But I'm not going to be able to get them in Australia, am I? I'm not willing to spend more than about $300 on a single driver either...
Skinny,
If you decide to go with a Shiva / Tempest.
I recommend John Woodhead from Acoustic Concepts (www.acousticconcepts.com.au) (probably the Vic. seller you were referring to). I won't tell you the price he sold me the Shiva for (may have changed - don't want to set wrong expectation) - but at the time, the peerless was approx $30 cheaper. I think now, they are probably much the same. Either could be had for around the $300 you mentioned.
BTW - I think the peerless XLS 12" is great too (a friend has one). Either way (Adire / Peerless) - you can't go wrong. The Peerless does have a rubber surround (whereas Shiva is foam) - so might speak for longevity.
PS: Wanna test xmech? - get an average quality mic and try out karaoke! - geez - should have seen the ol' shiva moving and shaking last night! (some noise / crap from the mic I suspect).
David.
If you decide to go with a Shiva / Tempest.
I recommend John Woodhead from Acoustic Concepts (www.acousticconcepts.com.au) (probably the Vic. seller you were referring to). I won't tell you the price he sold me the Shiva for (may have changed - don't want to set wrong expectation) - but at the time, the peerless was approx $30 cheaper. I think now, they are probably much the same. Either could be had for around the $300 you mentioned.
BTW - I think the peerless XLS 12" is great too (a friend has one). Either way (Adire / Peerless) - you can't go wrong. The Peerless does have a rubber surround (whereas Shiva is foam) - so might speak for longevity.
PS: Wanna test xmech? - get an average quality mic and try out karaoke! - geez - should have seen the ol' shiva moving and shaking last night! (some noise / crap from the mic I suspect).
David.
Skinny,
Can you get the PRs for the Peerless at trade $ as well? - are you going to go for 1 or 2?
If you are after SPL, then you'll need xmax with "inefficient" drivers (both peerless and shiva are < 90dB???). Shiva has the slight advantage there.... a good question about XMech - i don't know which one is better for both the drivers (I'm sure I've driven my shiva past xmax and haven't heard it pop yet).
I'm guessing PR's won't unload like a port - so without an infrasonic filter and very low tuning, I guess the Peerless with PRs (1 or 2) would be better to minimise risk of driver damage at high power or low frequency) operation.
Also, I believe the peerless has proper binding posts (shiva has cheap tabs). At $200 trade (not factoring the PR cost), the peerless seems favourable to me.
Dave.
Can you get the PRs for the Peerless at trade $ as well? - are you going to go for 1 or 2?
If you are after SPL, then you'll need xmax with "inefficient" drivers (both peerless and shiva are < 90dB???). Shiva has the slight advantage there.... a good question about XMech - i don't know which one is better for both the drivers (I'm sure I've driven my shiva past xmax and haven't heard it pop yet).
I'm guessing PR's won't unload like a port - so without an infrasonic filter and very low tuning, I guess the Peerless with PRs (1 or 2) would be better to minimise risk of driver damage at high power or low frequency) operation.
Also, I believe the peerless has proper binding posts (shiva has cheap tabs). At $200 trade (not factoring the PR cost), the peerless seems favourable to me.
Dave.
Okay, the box pictured, well, someone hacked a hole in either side (its begining to look like swiss cheese) and mounted his 2 8inch Peerless woofers, leaving the 10inch in its place and blocking the ports.. lol Now its a 10inch passive radiator mounted the wrong way in the box, with 2 8inch woofers.. lol
lol Now its a 10inch passive radiator mounted the wrong way in the box, with 2 8inch woofers.. lol
Did you post a new pic? (couldn't see it). So.... you are using the 8 inchers as PRs - did you smack the magnet assemblies off? (that's the most delicate way I could put it).
Have you tuned it, or are just doing it for an experiment?...
Hey - why not use the ports as well as the PRs and come up with something radical - say a ported, TL, PR sub (use the ports as tapered lines for the PRs)!
Dave.
Have you tuned it, or are just doing it for an experiment?...
Hey - why not use the ports as well as the PRs and come up with something radical - say a ported, TL, PR sub (use the ports as tapered lines for the PRs)!
Dave.
Umm.. lol these are the drivers for my 2 ways.. I haven't go the money, time, patience or resources to make the boxes at the moment, so I stuck em in my subwoofer box.. lol
And, I bought then from interstate, at trade price, but thats a secret.. the woofers were $75 each compared to $160 from Altronics.... The tweeters were $35 compared to $62 from Altronics.... all prices are Australian $$.. lol well, I'm happy, how about you?? I wanted good quality that would last me till I die (or can afford something bigger) It was Peerless or ReSponse from Jaycar, and the ReSponse were actually more expensive.. lol
I haven't go the money, time, patience or resources to make the boxes at the moment, so I stuck em in my subwoofer box.. lolAnd, I bought then from interstate, at trade price, but thats a secret.. the woofers were $75 each compared to $160 from Altronics.... The tweeters were $35 compared to $62 from Altronics.... all prices are Australian $$.. lol
well, I'm happy, how about you?? I wanted good quality that would last me till I die (or can afford something bigger) It was Peerless or ReSponse from Jaycar, and the ReSponse were actually more expensive.. lolThanks for the info on parts suppliers. I was looking at citysouthelectronics - seems to have the best price (and good at responding to my e-mails).
Assuming you are going passive for your xovers - can you tell me where you were going to get your xover components from? (Shipping inductors from USA is pricey - considering rolling my own). There is nothing decent in NZ (well low resistance inductors anyway)
Dave.
Assuming you are going passive for your xovers - can you tell me where you were going to get your xover components from? (Shipping inductors from USA is pricey - considering rolling my own). There is nothing decent in NZ (well low resistance inductors anyway)
Dave.
Okay.. heres the plan.. I make my 60litre boxes with the 8inch peerlesses and 1inch Tweeters.... I finish them piano style.. lol If and when I get more money, I hack a hole in the side of each box to mount a 12inch subwoofer and enclose the 8inch into a small (10litre) sealed box.... anyone see any problems with that? I'll make the bracing in the box suitably spaced so the 12inch will fit... that leaves a 50litre box for a tuned sub... what one would you reccomend? budget is like $200... peerless 10inch or 12inch? lol or something else?
I make my 60litre boxes with the 8inch peerlesses and 1inch Tweeters.... I finish them piano style.. lol If and when I get more money, I hack a hole in the side of each box to mount a 12inch subwoofer and enclose the 8inch into a small (10litre) sealed box.... anyone see any problems with that? I'll make the bracing in the box suitably spaced so the 12inch will fit... that leaves a 50litre box for a tuned sub... what one would you reccomend? budget is like $200... peerless 10inch or 12inch? lol or something else? If you are only doing a 6dB slope on the tweeter, by what people say around here.... just make sure you XO well above Fs of the tweeter, or ensure you don't feed it a heck of a lot of power or you'll bow it.
It seems to me minimalist is the ideal way to go for xovers - as John Murphy says... "xovers are evil, but a necessary evil".
Dave.
It seems to me minimalist is the ideal way to go for xovers - as John Murphy says... "xovers are evil, but a necessary evil".
Dave.
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