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dfdye · 2007-02-22 9:33 am

jacquesl said:
This is some monster madness cool tech; I want one like this, 5kw will do for me

I have a nice bridge that I can sell you to go along with it.

pinkmouse · 2007-02-22 10:23 am

As if any government agency or even big company would be put off by anti-tamper alarms or GPS tracking. I can think of at least half a dozen ways to get around that, and I'm not even a professional thief.

I'm sure anyone with any interest knows exactly what is going on inside them, and because there is no patent protection, they would be copying them now if they were any good.

KBK · 2007-02-22 3:23 pm

jacquesl said:
This is some monster madness cool tech; I want one like this, 5kw will do for me

Just so you know jacques, we don't get too deep (heh) in this thread, we don't want it shut down......

As fer such deux ex machinas..I can build one tomorrow. And I've been thinking about doing such - for many a year. According to the fictional basis of the term..I don't really have to do more than I have just said.

As for the machinas in the quoted article, note that one of the first goes to what is basically the origins of Fiat/Reserve banking and the Dutch/shell oil group. Or....Netherlands/Beatrix/London/Federal Reserve. Observe closely. Follow the trail.

jacquesl · 2007-02-22 5:44 pm

No doubt, we don't want it shut down......
But do you know any plans, maybe?

I want to get free energy, we get a lot of warnings on the TV, something overload shied blablabla, I’ve just seen on our news that Russia are going to build nuclear stations in south Africa to support our poor stations, so that Nordic and I can have electricity.
But if this Perendev Power Developments are able to produce a 600 kW, 1 megawatt, and 4 M with successful results, then why the

does we need nuclear??, :crazy:

, we can have cars powered by Perendev, you’ll just need to add a sticker to the back side saying, “this :car:

is powered by :magnet:

”, lmfao

kASD · 2007-02-23 12:53 pm

Happy threadjacking to you all, keep it up.....

This thread is continuously violating the forum rules for threadjacking.....but its again inthe loop, as the name it self says the same to be done here....

Netlist · 2007-02-23 1:04 pm

At least, we have less work keeping the regular threads on-topic since you guys seems to happily reside here

/Hugo

jacquesl · 2007-02-23 1:43 pm

KBK · 2007-02-26 7:17 am

http://prweb.com/releases/2007/2/prweb507479.htm

Why can't we do something with this? Well.. problem is, it's like giving infantile 5 year old morons..each a stick of lit dynamite.

Let's face it, the vast bulk of humanity are a bunch of overtly 'believing' -- backward wogs. Only a small amount of us could actually do something constructive with the information.

The rest are just.. .. ....talking monkeys.

Jacques, free energy, I'm not worried about.

Plenty of that to go around.

I'm more worried of what it is like to give talking monkeys such incredibly powerful things....who think that blocks of stone need to wailed at, or walked in circles around, and then -- kill anyone who disagrees with that.

The very vast, I mean 95%, and do DO MEAN LITERALLY..95% of humanity is SERIOUS need of a bit of basic psychological balance of some sort.

Until then, we are almost, all, to nearly a man, more of a danger to ourselves - than a saviour.

One of the ways I've expressed it Jacques, is this. Imagine we find a way to get a device that was of a 'free energy' nature in all our vehicles, over the next , oh, 5-10 years.

In North america..let's say..there are then...150,000,000 of these devices, in vehicles...ALONE. Not to mention other applications.

A 15 year old figures out (as the concepts are dead simple, once you understand them!) how to turn each and every one of them..into an ...'anti-matter' bomb. Simply, easily, with no fuss.

And publishes the information on the internet.

What then? 150,000,000 potential antimatter bombs, each capable of removing from existence.. about 5 sqaure miles of matter? the equivalent of a 20 megaton nuke? 150,000,000 of them, easy to create....and about 10 within the reach of any given human being in North America?

Are you ready for that?

I'm not. For that is nearly the position we would all be in.

One gift of energy becomes a curse, when you look at the other side of the coin. Once the concepts are understood, NEARLY ANYTHING is possible. Almost all current known limits to the manipulation of time, matter, and energy are removed..just..like..that.

What is really needed, before that time comes where it arrives..is that people UNDERSTAND what the potential IS.

The problem is a very serious one as the very nature of these talking monkeys is to deny and use emotions and mental wrangling and other garbage to deny, and fight their way out of any actual reality they may desire to remain away from and maintain a given fantasy -to remain within.....and kill anything that gets in the way of that.

We can't convince a man that other avenues exist within science and the very fabric of reality..hell..we can't even get a person to understand that their personal relationship is over, fer crissakes! Talking monkeys, almost to a man! Where's the HUMAN part????? The one that faces realities, with clarity??

Imagine then, putting the real and actual fate and life of anyone within 10-50 miles..in the hands of every single person in that 10-50 mile area. How real are those people? Is there even one derranged person in that whole area, or one person who just had a very 'bad day?' and went suicidal? What then? Can you speak for the mental health of every single person on the entire eastern seaboard of the United States...about 120 million people? Or, for every single person in Johannesburg? Or Calcutta? Or Tokyo?

What do we do? How do we solve this very real problem, that is about to emerge?

More than anything..this is what we are facing. And not way in the future, but ANY DAY NOW.

kASD · 2007-02-26 3:55 pm

TONS of TEXT as NONSENSE

jacquesl · 2007-02-26 5:29 pm

KBK said:
http://prweb.com/releases/2007/2/prweb507479.htm

Why can't we do something with this? Well.. problem is, it's like giving infantile 5 year old morons..each a stick of lit dynamite.

Let's face it, the vast bulk of humanity are a bunch of overtly 'believing' -- backward wogs. Only a small amount of us could actually do something constructive with the information.

The rest are just.. .. ....talking monkeys.

Jacques, free energy, I'm not worried about.

Plenty of that to go around.

I'm more worried of what it is like to give talking monkeys such incredibly powerful things....who think that blocks of stone need to wailed at, or walked in circles around, and then -- kill anyone who disagrees with that.

The very vast, I mean 95%, and do DO MEAN LITERALLY..95% of humanity is SERIOUS need of a bit of basic psychological balance of some sort.

Until then, we are almost, all, to nearly a man, more of a danger to ourselves - than a saviour.

One of the ways I've expressed it Jacques, is this. Imagine we find a way to get a device that was of a 'free energy' nature in all our vehicles, over the next , oh, 5-10 years.

In North america..let's say..there are then...150,000,000 of these devices, in vehicles...ALONE. Not to mention other applications.

A 15 year old figures out (as the concepts are dead simple, once you understand them!) how to turn each and every one of them..into an ...'anti-matter' bomb. Simply, easily, with no fuss.

And publishes the information on the internet.

What then? 150,000,000 potential antimatter bombs, each capable of removing from existence.. about 5 sqaure miles of matter? the equivalent of a 20 megaton nuke? 150,000,000 of them, easy to create....and about 10 within the reach of any given human being in North America?

Are you ready for that?

I'm not. For that is nearly the position we would all be in.

One gift of energy becomes a curse, when you look at the other side of the coin. Once the concepts are understood, NEARLY ANYTHING is possible. Almost all current known limits to the manipulation of time, matter, and energy are removed..just..like..that.

What is really needed, before that time comes where it arrives..is that people UNDERSTAND what the potential IS.

The problem is a very serious one as the very nature of these talking monkeys is to deny and use emotions and mental wrangling and other garbage to deny, and fight their way out of any actual reality they may desire to remain away from and maintain a given fantasy -to remain within.....and kill anything that gets in the way of that.

We can't convince a man that other avenues exist within science and the very fabric of reality..hell..we can't even get a person to understand that their personal relationship is over, fer crissakes! Talking monkeys, almost to a man! Where's the HUMAN part????? The one that faces realities, with clarity??

Imagine then, putting the real and actual fate and life of anyone within 10-50 miles..in the hands of every single person in that 10-50 mile area. How real are those people? Is there even one derranged person in that whole area, or one person who just had a very 'bad day?' and went suicidal? What then? Can you speak for the mental health of every single person on the entire eastern seaboard of the United States...about 120 million people? Or, for every single person in Johannesburg? Or Calcutta? Or Tokyo?

What do we do? How do we solve this very real problem, that is about to emerge?

More than anything..this is what we are facing. And not way in the future, but ANY DAY NOW.

Hmm, I don’t understand this so well, you’re above my fire place now.
Are you saying that free energy will create ****?

I south Africa we have some crises, one is the government but **** them the other part is, we don’t have enough Mega watts to serve for this coming winter, almost every time then I watch my “7de laan” kak to wait for 19:00 to dial up I see the power alert saying switch of all light TV and air cons what not needed. So I think there a big market in south Africa for me, I belief me I will hot wire that generator that you will need a team of programmers and crack potters to tweak the generator because only I will know the technology so called UFO technology by others, I’ll be in control, that’s the negative part you WILL always need a moderator to keep things in place. That a fact. And unknown technology and cleaver person will probably do

KBK · 2007-03-03 2:52 am

Now..exactly where did Plato say that this fabled 'Atlantis' was?

And exaclty what was the fate of that civilization, approximately 12,000 years ago? For what reasons, exactly?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mysteries of the Atlantic

Cardiff University scientists will shortly set sail (March 5) to investigate a startling discovery in the depths of the Atlantic.

Scientists have discovered a large area thousands of square kilometres in extent in the middle of the Atlantic where the Earth's crust appears to be missing. Instead, the mantle - the deep interior of the Earth, normally covered by crust many kilometres thick - is exposed on the seafloor, 3000m below the surface.

Marine geologist Dr Chris MacLeod, School of Earth, Ocean and Planetary Sciences said: "This discovery is like an open wound on the surface of the Earth. Was the crust never there? Was it once there but then torn away on huge geological faults? If so, then how and why?"

To answer some of these questions Dr MacLeod with a team of scientists, led by marine geophysicist Professor Roger Searle, Durham University, will travel to the area which lies mid-way between the Cape Verde Islands and the Caribbean.

The expedition will be the inaugural research cruise of a new UK research ship RRS James Cook. The team intends to use sonars to image the seafloor and then take rock cores using a robotic seabed drill. The samples will provide a rare opportunity to gain insights into the workings of the mantle deep below the surface of the Earth.

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Progress of the cruise can be monitored via a live web link to the ship: www.noc.soton.ac.uk/gg/classroom@sea/JC007/

The public, and especially school children, are encouraged to ask questions of the scientists on board during the expedition via the on-line e-mail link.

Hhhmmmmm......

Overunity is out there, that's for sure. As easy as breathing, once one understands it. All reality, as you know it..will be torn.

But...the other side of the coin is just as big.

No more mental confusion. No more anger. No more suicidal tendacies. No more irrationality. No more animalism. You, your brother, your brother's keeper, his keeper, and his keeper..etc, etc, etc. Everone becomes intimately tied to the fate of EVERYONE, in the most in-depth way possible, in ways you...really can't even begin to understand. Only totally clear, 100% human, living breathing, caring and humane people can be in that world. NO others are allowed, PERIOD.

Now, how many people do you know of that nature?

You may conclude that you know few, but I think that you know many. It is just that brutality and animalism are prevalent in the 'public eye'.

Not much longer.

Fanatics of all natures, will not be tolerated, at all. That's the end of that.

If you think I'm crazy on that one, get ready to be wrong.
It will be forced, by the nature of the change and events...themselves. I know most of you might think I'm dead wrong but are desperately hoping I'm right (if indeed what I say, is true). In that moment alone, it should be clear..to you.

Here are some interesting gravitational patterns to ponder:

http://www.csr.utexas.edu/grace/

tomtt · 2007-03-04 12:19 am

Nordic said:
I propose we rather accept what we call the speed of light is the limit of speed of linear information transfer.

.....and be wrong from the start-

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cach...+of+light"+microwave&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us[/url]

NASA's Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Workshop
Quote: Photons have been measured to tunnel across a photonic band-gap barrier at 1.7 times the speed of light ... . ... In addition, recent experiments of the rest mass of the electron antineutrino have measured an imaginary value (Stoeffl 1995). Even though this result is attributed to possible errors, an imaginary mass value is a signature characteristic of a tachyon. ... In the workshop it was suggested to revisit this and other similar data to determine if this can be credibly interpreted as evidence of tachyons. It was also pointed out that other experiments have been suggested to search for evidence of tachyons ... .
www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp/TM-97-206241.htm

Physicist Uses Electrical Pulse to Surpass Speed of Light
[ CBC News, Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:48:09 EST ]
www.cbc.ca/story/news/national/2003/01/16/speed_light030116.html
Question from H.Kurt Richter: This was reported in the Canadian press in 2003, but I don't remember hearing about it in the US. I first heard of this on educational TV a year after the story broke in Canada. Why did we not hear about it from the major news outlets in the US, or did I miss it?
Discussion-group homepage for the above;
www.iidb.org/vbb/archive/index.php/t-43703.html

SY · 2007-03-04 2:36 am

If your read and understand that work, it will be immediately apparent that information still cannot be transferred faster-than-light. I can give lots of gedanken-experiments that have various things moving superluminally (e.g., the phase velocity along a transmission line), but in all cases, there is no superluminal transfer of information.

KBK · 2007-03-04 6:00 am

How to out-argue:

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HOW TO ARGUE EFFECTIVELY

I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this and steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me. You too can win arguments. Simply follow these rules:

DRINK LIQUOR

Suppose you are at a party and some hotshot intellectual is expounding on the economy of Peru, a subject you know nothing about. If you're drinking some health-fanatic drink like grapefruit juice, you'll hang back, afraid to display your ignorance, while the hotshot enthralls your date. But if you drink several large martinis, you'll discover you have STRONG VIEWS about the Peruvian economy. You'll be a WEALTH of information. You'll argue forcefully, offering searing insights and possibly upsetting furniture.

People will be impressed. Some may leave the room.

MAKE THINGS UP

Suppose, in the Peruvian economy argument, you are trying to prove that Peruvians are underpaid, a position you base solely on the fact that YOU are underpaid, and you'll be damned if you're going to let a bunch of Peruvians be better off. DON'T say: "I think Peruvians are underpaid." Say instead:

"The average Peruvian's salary in 1981 dollars adjusted for the revised tax base is $1,452.81 per annum, which is $836.07 before the mean gross poverty level."
NOTE: Always make up exact figures.

If an opponent asks you where you got your information, make THAT up too. Say:

"This information comes from Dr. Hovel T. Moon's study for the Buford Commission published on May 9, 1982. Didn't you read it?" Say this in the same tone of voice you would use to say, "You left your soiled underwear in my bathroom."
USE MEANINGLESS BUT WEIGHTY-SOUNDING WORDS AND PHRASES

Memorize this list:

Let me put it this way
In terms of
Vis-à-vis
Per se
As it were
Qua
So to speak

You should also memorize some Latin abbreviations such as "Q.E.D.", "e.g.", and "i.e." These are all short for "I speak Latin, and you don't."

Here's how to use these words and phrases. Suppose you want to say,"Peruvians would like to order appetizers more often, but they don't have enough money."

You never win arguments talking like that. But you WILL win if you say:

"Let me put it this way. In terms of appetizers vis-à-vis Peruvians qua Peruvians, they would like to order them more often, so to speak, but they do not have enough money per se, as it were. Q.E.D." Only a fool would challenge that statement.
USE SNAPPY AND IRRELEVANT COMEBACKS
You need an arsenal of all-purpose irrelevant phrases to fire back at your opponents when they make valid points. The best are:

You're begging the question.
You're being defensive.
Don't compare apples to oranges.
What are your parameters?
This last one is especially valuable. Nobody (other than engineers and policy wonks) has the vaguest idea what "parameters" means.

Don't forget the classic: YOU'RE SO LINEAR.

Here's how to use your comebacks:

You say: As Abraham Lincoln said in 1873...
Your opponent says: Lincoln died in 1865.
You say: You're begging the question.

You say: Liberians, like most Asians...
Your opponent says: Liberia is in Africa.
You say: You're being defensive.

So that's it. You now know how to out-argue anybody. Do not try to pull any of this on people who generally carry weapons.

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http://www.ece.ust.hk/~mchan/interest/jokes/argument.htm

KBK · 2007-03-04 6:19 am

Awesome!

http://www.jimmyr.com/blog/Amazing_Spray_Painter_33_2007.php

maxro · 2007-03-04 7:00 am

KBK said:
Awesome!

http://www.jimmyr.com/blog/Amazing_Spray_Painter_33_2007.php

With soundtrack by Neu! Sweet.

KBK · 2007-03-06 5:32 am

Why do I tend to insist that the next frontier of the human mind is WITHIN....and no where else?

Due to the paradigm shift facing us..today..and into the very near future.

CHANGE......GROW...SHIFT........ or be LEFT BEHIND.

Now You Know.

I'm ready. I know it already. I've known it all my life.

How about you?

We live that ancient Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times."

I'm bringing it back to you, some of the things I know. From...that other space. But...gently..gently... Maybe you will listen, maybe even understand....if you can. All one can do..is try.

In case you don't get the point. Time is NOT linear. You are NOT what you think you are. Reality is NOT what you think it is.

See this:

http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=3,3759,0,0,1,0

SY · 2007-03-06 12:45 pm

Hello, Seekers! Welcome to the New Age! There's a Seeker born every minute.

scott wurcer · 2007-03-06 3:52 pm

This stuff reads like a Dr. Bronners lable. BTW one of the chief over-unity folks, Jean-Louis Naudin, posted some experiments on line a few years ago. They had such obvious holes in the results that it was laughable.

jacquesl · 2007-03-07 3:49 pm

Yea, Jean-Louis Naudin have a lot of stuff going on his website

On my terms, Free energy devices, I personally designed 2 gravity motor devices that didn’t worked, I tested it and delivered almost equal output that input, less output because of friction of the mechanical works, the motors work like transformers to make more understandable, the motors work like step-up and step-down transformers,

Example:
(100g)-------------------| |----(100g)
This on will have a higher potential energy then the last one

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