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The Well Tempered Master Clock - Group buy

You must have the oven for SC crystals; they would not be on-frequency
with the wrong temperature, have activity dips, nothing would be right.

Yes, I am aware of frequency deviation of SC-cut XO under room temperature. I found this chart from a manufacturer. It looks like the deviation is within 20ppm. Do you think this will still cause problems?


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I would at least run it hot, even if unregulated. There is more to
crystals than stability of the nominal resonance. There are spurious
responses that vary with temp. and excitation level. It is entertaining
to watch a crystal on the network analyzer and playing with the
conditions.

I also find some hybris in the intention to make it better than the
commercial manufacturers and then skimping on the basics.

regards, Gerhard
 
I would at least run it hot, even if unregulated. There is more to
crystals than stability of the nominal resonance. There are spurious
responses that vary with temp. and excitation level. It is entertaining
to watch a crystal on the network analyzer and playing with the
conditions.

I also find some hybris in the intention to make it better than the
commercial manufacturers and then skimping on the basics.

regards, Gerhard


Thanks for the info. I will try to build the oven though. I am so curious about the effect on temperature. It is interesting to build a ovenized SC-cut oscillator by hand.
 
As Gerhard pointed out there are also problems related to unwanted spurious oscillation.

As you can see in the attached picture the B-mode oscillation is strongly affected by temperature. Without an oven could be very difficult to suppress the undesired mode.
 

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GB update

Crystals arrived and shipped to all the members who have ordered crystals and bare boards.

Next days I start building for the members who have requested finished boards.

Attached the individual measurements of each crystal.
 

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Parts in stock

If someone was interested, the following parts are available:

Crystals:
2 x AT 11.2896 MHz fundamental
3 x AT 12.288 MHz fundamental
3 x AT 22.5792 MHz fundamental
2 x AT 24.576 MHz fundamental
2 x AT 33.8688 MHz 3rd overtone
1 x AT 98.304 MHz 5th overtone
1 x SC 22.5792 MHz 3rd overtone
1 x SC 45.1584 MHz 3rd overtone
1 x SC 49.152 MHz 3rd overtone
4 x SC 90.3168 MHz 3rd overtone
6 x SC 98.304 MHz 3rd overtone

Finished boards:
1 x TWTMC-D finished with AT-Cut 98.304 MHz
1 x TWTMC-P finished without crystal (AT-Cut 22.5792 MHz available)
1 x TWTMC-D finished without crystal (AT-Cut 11.2896 MHz available)
1 x TWTMC-D&D finished with rect.filt./regs./switch.logic (15V-3V3)
 
Parts in stock - update

If someone was interested, the following parts are available:

Crystals:
3 x AT 12.288 MHz fundamental
1 x AT 24.576 MHz fundamental
2 x AT 33.8688 MHz 3rd overtone
1 x AT 98.304 MHz 5th overtone
1 x SC 22.5792 MHz 3rd overtone
1 x SC 45.1584 MHz 3rd overtone
1 x SC 49.152 MHz 3rd overtone
4 x SC 90.3168 MHz 3rd overtone
6 x SC 98.304 MHz 3rd overtone

Finished boards:
1 x TWTMC-D finished with AT-Cut 98.304 MHz
1 x TWTMC-P finished without crystal
1 x TWTMC-D finished without crystal
1 x TWTMC-D&D finished with rect.filt./regs./switch.logic (15V-3V3)
 
My package has arrived, very nice, thank you, Andrea!:)
I have a little question, the boards needs 3,3v and 6v. So do I apply one supply LDO for 2 boards of 6v (or 3,3v) or for the better performance I have to apply separate LDO-s for all supply input? (I have just one 6v supply now)