Not accepting illogical and in my view incorrect statements from others served as the truth is forcing my opinion on others?
Science is something that you declare to be science, period?
And in all that, still no reply to my very clear questions ...
Sorry, Tattoo, I am not the type.
Mind you, far be it from me to question your tastes - that's your business and has nothing to do with anybody. If you prefer to enjoy a "blameless" amp simply because it measures well, and refuse to recognize the simple fact that something can measure great and still sound bland, flat and uninteresting, that's your business, but don't worry, sooner or later you will realize that this is a simple fact of life, all it takes is yet more hands-on experience.
Just so I'm not misunderstood - the problem is, in my view, that we have yet to learn MUCH more on how to measure what beafore measurements have any real world bearing on how something sounds other than tell us that it has obvious faults and/or shortcomings. They are great as far as they go, but they don't go far enough (yet).
Fortunately Rayma, the audio world is MUCH bigger than this forum.
Over the years, I have had mostly the pleasure of meeting quite a few people who design and manufacture their own commercial poducts, Overall, they are a nice lot, people I am generally pleased to know, but I have learnt that the greatest enemy they face is their own vanity.
Most simply do not/cannot accept even the remote possibility of anyone improving their product, good as it may be. Most actually get angry at the very mention of the idea.
I have seen otherwise very promising lives blown because of simple and pure vanity. People who failed when I know for a fact that there was no need for it, that they were capable of so much more if only they had listened and thought without outright refusal.
So this here is actually small fry. They will never understand that their word does not carry the same weight as does the word of those who have done their deeds for all to see and hear, they have PROVED themselves. Jan Didden, for example, has published in Europe's premier electronics magazine "Elektor" I don't know how many times, but I do know he produced a conceptually very interesting amplifier. A friend of mine has built a preamp around a circuit designed by Pavel Macura, and in my view, it produces unusually good sound. As I said, very specific, very concrete proof that they know what they are talking about.
Compare that to the life and works of the naysayers and "scientists".
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Will never happen. I saw an excellent show on Houdini last week. One of his hobbies was debunking mediums and mystics, and it's amazing how some of these folks go on even after proven fake.
Things like the Carver challenge happen but don't end up making much of a lasting impact, just too much to lose.
On the contrary, I have found that most average people can hear differences in audio equipment if given the chance.
In fact, they are usually surprised and excited by how much difference they can hear.
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I do not have, nor claim to have, an "excellent" hearing, with perhaps the only exception being the fact that at 61, I can still hear 16 kHz. Not very common, but hardly unheard of.
As for visiting Hi Fi shows around the world, let me sum it up like this: the cost of visiting just one of those US based shows equals to around 14 months' average monthy income in my poor country. That's a bit too much to spend on curiosity, don't you think?
Show it off, if I had it, in public? What for? What's it to you, at the end of the day you will still have YOUR hearing? 7 years ago, I built a car from the ground up, and all the showing off I ever do with it is to drive it for my own pleasure. Well, on ocassion, when a particularly nasty SUV driver tries to road bully me, I just press the gas pedal and let him figure out what the hell happened and why he never got to even read my number plates? The expression on their faces in my panoramic rear view mirror is priceless.
And I didn't do it to impress anyone, I did it to learn, whch I have, and to satisfy my ears with the sound of a top notch engine revving up at 8.000 rpm. If you've ever heard that, you'll know what a symphony that sounds like, hear it once and you'll never forget it. With all due respect to everyone, but NOBODY on this planet or in its vicinity has an engine sound like an Italian engine. It doesn't scream, it sings.
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That's my experience as well.
And Pavel's experience with his son's iPhone, several pages back, is quite telling.
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You're casting far to wide a net here, I would say even I could probably tell Magnepans from Wilson Audio without peeking. This is not the usual discussion here, more like "any global feedback has a sonic signature no matter how implemented".
One of the finest systems I ever heard was put together for the owners particular love of certain LP's and was amazingly bland with Kraut prog rock or techno.
Scott, it's amazing what can be achieved at even low price points if the owner knows how and is willig to take the time and trouble to make his system work in as much synch as he can.
We are not talking about comparig a say $3k electrostatic speaker with a $300 dynamic speaker, we are talking about well selected and put together component systems, with a total system price (for an amp, CD player and speakers, plus wirig) of say $1k. THIS is what most can - or are wiling - to spend on audio these days, millionaires willing to spend $350k on a tube 10wpc amp are awfully rare these days.
And it can be done, I have heard it done several times over the last 3 or 4 years, and by people who do not differentiate a 1N4148 diode from a 33.000 uF electrolytic capacitor. Nor do they give a damn.
We are not talking about comparig a say $3k electrostatic speaker with a $300 dynamic speaker, we are talking about well selected and put together component systems, with a total system price (for an amp, CD player and speakers, plus wirig) of say $1k. THIS is what most can - or are wiling - to spend on audio these days, millionaires willing to spend $350k on a tube 10wpc amp are awfully rare these days.
And it can be done, I have heard it done several times over the last 3 or 4 years, and by people who do not differentiate a 1N4148 diode from a 33.000 uF electrolytic capacitor. Nor do they give a damn.
It's a struggle, Dejan ... boy, is it ever a struggle, 
! At least, you have the satisfaction of understanding how to go about achieving satisfying sound, whereas the "others" are captured into putting up with the sound generated by "technically correct" equipment - the few times I listen to equipment set up and used by people as professionals in the audio game I wonder how on earth they can put up with the constant "ugliness" of it - I would go mad, having to listen to that, day in, day out ...
! At least, you have the satisfaction of understanding how to go about achieving satisfying sound, whereas the "others" are captured into putting up with the sound generated by "technically correct" equipment - the few times I listen to equipment set up and used by people as professionals in the audio game I wonder how on earth they can put up with the constant "ugliness" of it - I would go mad, having to listen to that, day in, day out ... - Status
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