True for: electrostatics and RF. Untrue for: audio. (Well, minor effect with thicker wires at the top end of the audio band, but almost certainly still irrelevant)GloBug said:
You need to ensure that the two stereo channels use opposite twist. This is because of Fermi theory for electrons - they don't like to get too close to others with the same spin. Not a problem with monoblocs, of course.DualTriode said:
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Darn you guys.
You have caused me to rethink the effects of bending and twisting of conductors, even reconsider the effects of burn in. When you tweak solid conductors they under go elastic and plastic deformation, stranded conductors not so much. Over time, less time at elevated temperatures, the grain structure distorted by bending, twisting and stretching will recover, recrystallize and grow to the original size. Thinking of it, even Morgan Jones bakes his wire wound resistors in the kitchen oven to stabilize their parameters prior to use.
Perhaps over time at elevated temperature (burn in) the performance of the right hand twist will equal the performance of the left hand twist.
DF96, I think that the valence electrons share a common spin. I do agree that we should consider the quantum effects.
DT
Darn you guys.
You have caused me to rethink the effects of bending and twisting of conductors, even reconsider the effects of burn in. When you tweak solid conductors they under go elastic and plastic deformation, stranded conductors not so much. Over time, less time at elevated temperatures, the grain structure distorted by bending, twisting and stretching will recover, recrystallize and grow to the original size. Thinking of it, even Morgan Jones bakes his wire wound resistors in the kitchen oven to stabilize their parameters prior to use.
Perhaps over time at elevated temperature (burn in) the performance of the right hand twist will equal the performance of the left hand twist.
DF96, I think that the valence electrons share a common spin. I do agree that we should consider the quantum effects.
DT
Since the change in his domestic situation, Morgan no longer uses the kitchen oven. But thanks to the skyrocketing sales of his books, he has purchased a highly regulated vacuum oven with a platinum lining. He uses that for baking resistors and annealing his monocle, top hat, and cane while the servants are pressing his bespoke tuxedo.
Depends on what solid & what stranded you happened to use. Some solid wires might not sound good at all, and some stranded just might. But the rule is that a solid copper wire will add less distortion + better dynamics over any stranded wire.
please step away from that keyboard, sound system, record...
we can point you to the equations, tools, analogies with equipment, techniques, practices used in every day tech like the DSL modem you are likely using now or instruments used by other Scientists, Engineers...
the very latest absurdity would be shot at with questions about the RLC of inches (10s of cm) of wire between kOhm volume pot and typical 100s kOhm, 10s pF amp input Z
1st year students should be able to "do the sums"
physics, psychoacoustics doesn't support anything near "infinite" resolution for sound reproduction, human hearing limits, discrimination abilities
when wire real electrical properties result in circuit differences that are linear, orders of magnitude below all so far known human auditory perception limits then engineers don't lose much sleep over wire construction
routing however can have "real" consequences - where you put it, how close, creating loops of what open area, orientation...
we can point you to the equations, tools, analogies with equipment, techniques, practices used in every day tech like the DSL modem you are likely using now or instruments used by other Scientists, Engineers...
the very latest absurdity would be shot at with questions about the RLC of inches (10s of cm) of wire between kOhm volume pot and typical 100s kOhm, 10s pF amp input Z
1st year students should be able to "do the sums"
physics, psychoacoustics doesn't support anything near "infinite" resolution for sound reproduction, human hearing limits, discrimination abilities
when wire real electrical properties result in circuit differences that are linear, orders of magnitude below all so far known human auditory perception limits then engineers don't lose much sleep over wire construction
routing however can have "real" consequences - where you put it, how close, creating loops of what open area, orientation...
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OK then you stick with ceramic and lytic caps in your audio circuits. Leave the PIO's and films to us cork sniffers.
"High amperage" circuits use busbar, not stranded wire.
High amperage car audio amp power cables are stranded......the high amperage cable feeding that busbar is stranded, and come to think of it so are the power wires feeding your home. Wonder why?
I ask you this, what did science understand 100 years ago? and have they advanced since?
Do you really believe that science can't learn anything new at this point and has no other discoveries to make?
Just because something can not be explained by science now, does not make it non existent, and in the future science might be able to qualify things you scoff at today.
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