PRV 5MR450-NDY for FAST/WAW applications

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My experience has been with TA2020, the lower power variant popular in the Lepai amp. Many folks including myself whom have listened to Tripath TA20xx vs the TPA31xx agree that the TPA is better. It is newer technology and subjectively the differences are better clarity, sound stage and imaging, more transparency and more articulate bass. However, a modded TA20xx can sound better than a stock TPA31XX. But a properly modded TPA31XX will always sound better than a properly modded TA20XX. You should ask this in the Class D forum in the TPA3116D2 thread if you want a wider audience base to provide feedback.

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/class-d/237086-tpa3116d2-amp.html

The mods are not expensive or extensive: qnty 2 330uF 25v SEPF OSCON caps, qnty 4 ceramic 220nF 50v bootsrap caps, qnty 4 330pF 50v ceramic bootstrap snubber caps, qnty 4 10ohm 1/4 watt bootstrap snubber resistors, qmty 2 3.3uF 250v input caps. About $10 total.

I guess this is getting OT but if you have more questions about TPA31XX amps please post questions in the above thread link.
 
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Mass-damped Hypercube with 5MR450NDY

I just made this enclosure using the Hypercube with added mass damping on the panels. Sounds really nice.

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/265053-hypercube-loudspeakers-27.html#post4134697

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This is response and harmonic distortion without any stuffing at all inside! A hollow cabinet:
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Yes very cool build but sadly the link http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/265053-hypercube-loudspeakers-27.html#post4134697 in meantime closed for new activity :(.

Don't do it xrk971 for my curiosity (give you work load) but if you sometime happen to measure this box when it's stuffed/damped be nice if you publish it, imagine sound maybe could change to something ala more headphone like than your description the other thread as being "open".

225 watt and high sensitivity as you said over there could be a great on stage monitor.
 
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I didn't know it was closed over there. It is sad that the thread was closed as I think it was quite popular and some good stuff was discussed. Some people who never contribute anything but annoying personal attacks have to ruin it for the rest of us.

I will put stuffing in and measure again to see if there is a difference. In the meantime I came up with a simple 2nd order passive line level XO to integrate these Hypercubes with a sub at 200 Hz. Sounds really nice - will have to get some sound clips soon.

Here is a photo of the PLLXO for the sub - about 200Hz. Costs less than $2.
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Mass damped inner panels:
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Assembly:
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Almost done:
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Phase response:
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Impulse:
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Compared to TC9FD Hypercube:
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Back to Nautaloss...

After playing around with the Hypercube and HyperFAST, and the AMT - I just cleaned up the speaker lab and put the 5MR450NDY's back on the stools, re-loaded the DSP script in the miniDSP, and here I am back to a favorite. With a sub woofer filling in from 30Hz to 170Hz, these sound fantastic - and reminds me why it is still one of my favorite setups.

This is what the room looks like again:
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The sound is very clear with great imaging and lots of headroom for dynamic passages. :D

Something to be said about a simple full range driver in a sealed IB cabinet.

For some reason, REM's song "Don't go back to Rockville... and waste another year..." keeps playing in my head. :)
 
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Thanks for providing so much information. I'm interested in the off axis performance of this driver. Could you please upload one of your REW measurement files? Very much appreciated.

REW data files are pretty big as they contain the raw wav file of the sound. Not sure if it can be uploaded given 965k file size limit. Send me a PM and we can figure out another way.
 
Thank you X.

Looking at your measurements this driver seems to fall of rather sharp around 0 degrees but it might work for off-axis listening. There is a problem around 9kHz. Other than that off axis differences are pretty small for a wide-band driver. It would be great to have additional measurements from more angles to confirm.

Most other drivers I've seen so far work best around 0 degrees. After equalization of course. They all need EQ to achieve a halfway decent frequency response. Good thing EQ is readily available these days.