Hello friends this prestigious forum.
My English is very basic, and helped me with the translator on-line, are able to forgive.
I come to you for help to complete a DIY project I started many years ago and was postponed. It is McIntosh preamplifier section MA-6100.
The problem that is presented to me is that while I have the original circuit, do not know the exact nomenclature of the transistors of the same figure as only factory part numbers.
In some cases I have chosen replacements but may not be the best, and others have not been able to determine them (those carrying 75 Volts collector)
I have some photos, would be a great pleasure for me to complete the project, thanks for any suggestions and input!
Description circuit /Reemplacement / Parts Number/ Transistor Type
Q-101-102/ HR-71 or BC-416 /132-096 /PNP
Q-103-104/ BC-416 / 132-096 /PNP
Q-105-106 / ?? /132-095 /NPN
Q-107-108-109-110 / BC-239 /132-093 / NPN
Q-111-112 / BC-239 / 132-093 / NPN
Q-113-114 / BC-547-B ? / 132-095 / NPN
Q-115-116 / ?? / 132-095 / NPN
Q-303 / ?? / 132-078 / NPN
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Very thanks !
Regards
My English is very basic, and helped me with the translator on-line, are able to forgive.
I come to you for help to complete a DIY project I started many years ago and was postponed. It is McIntosh preamplifier section MA-6100.
The problem that is presented to me is that while I have the original circuit, do not know the exact nomenclature of the transistors of the same figure as only factory part numbers.
In some cases I have chosen replacements but may not be the best, and others have not been able to determine them (those carrying 75 Volts collector)
I have some photos, would be a great pleasure for me to complete the project, thanks for any suggestions and input!
Description circuit /Reemplacement / Parts Number/ Transistor Type
Q-101-102/ HR-71 or BC-416 /132-096 /PNP
Q-103-104/ BC-416 / 132-096 /PNP
Q-105-106 / ?? /132-095 /NPN
Q-107-108-109-110 / BC-239 /132-093 / NPN
Q-111-112 / BC-239 / 132-093 / NPN
Q-113-114 / BC-547-B ? / 132-095 / NPN
Q-115-116 / ?? / 132-095 / NPN
Q-303 / ?? / 132-078 / NPN
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Sorry, not be viewed correctly uploaded the circuit, I leave the links are all models vintage Mc Intosh!
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Please anybody can help me? There must be people with expertise on Mc Intosh here.
It is very important for me, if I do not have the name of the original transistors, I can not find replacements, and by inference of the function and location of each transistor in the circuit is a big risk, the result can be very bad ...
Thanks again and as they sang The Beatles, Help for me!
It is very important for me, if I do not have the name of the original transistors, I can not find replacements, and by inference of the function and location of each transistor in the circuit is a big risk, the result can be very bad ...
Thanks again and as they sang The Beatles, Help for me!
Here is a link to another site that may have your answers. I also have an original MA6100 that is in need of repairs and if I find anything else I will try and post it here for you. Look around on this site as I see many questions about this particular integrated amplifier here.
Steven
MA-6100 5A fuses burnt (2 of 4) [Archive] - AudioKarma.org Home Audio Stereo Discussion Forums
Steven
MA-6100 5A fuses burnt (2 of 4) [Archive] - AudioKarma.org Home Audio Stereo Discussion Forums
Hello Steven
I had a look and is a specific remedy, unfortunately, no information on the stage transistor preamplifier. Anyway all useful.
Very thanks!
Rolando
The problem is that I have to read transistors ....
Thanks for offering equal friend.
I keep looking
Dear Rolando, your problem is very simple to be solved.
The transistors Q101-103 are BC416C, wich may be substituted by BC560C.
Transistors Q107, 109, 111 are BC239C, modern equivalents are BC550C
For Q105, 113 and 115, originals are GE X32W6047 ???!!! any NPN 100V, 300mW
are good, for example, 2N5550, 2N5551 as best choices, BC639, BD139, maybe MPSA42, BF469, BF869 as secondary choices.
If this preamp are to be used as independent preamp, don't forget to put a 220 ~ 470 ohms resistor in series with the output, and at least a 4,7uF in the position of C137.
Hope it help.
Cordiales saludos from Brazil,
Marcos
The transistors Q101-103 are BC416C, wich may be substituted by BC560C.
Transistors Q107, 109, 111 are BC239C, modern equivalents are BC550C
For Q105, 113 and 115, originals are GE X32W6047 ???!!! any NPN 100V, 300mW
are good, for example, 2N5550, 2N5551 as best choices, BC639, BD139, maybe MPSA42, BF469, BF869 as secondary choices.
If this preamp are to be used as independent preamp, don't forget to put a 220 ~ 470 ohms resistor in series with the output, and at least a 4,7uF in the position of C137.
Hope it help.
Cordiales saludos from Brazil,
Marcos
Marcos,
thank you for that information, I am sure it will come in handy.
Academia50,
Where did you find the pots and switches that you have showing in your first post. I know that a few of the switches are no longer available from McIntosh and was wondering how I was going to replace them.
Steven
thank you for that information, I am sure it will come in handy.
Academia50,
Where did you find the pots and switches that you have showing in your first post. I know that a few of the switches are no longer available from McIntosh and was wondering how I was going to replace them.
Steven
Hello Marcos
Excellent! It is exactly what I needed!
It's nice to find people of a country so close and valued as Brazil
I understand that the mentioned series resistor attenuates the mV. delivering the amplifier to a level acceptable to the input sensitivity of the amplifier. Is that correct?
The amplifier to use with this preamp is a Prima Luna Dialogue Two:
Input Impedance 100 kOhm
Input Sensitivity 270 mV (for rated power at maximum volume setting)
Do not understand why I recommend replacing the capacitor C-137 of 47 uf. by 4.7 uf. .......?
Thank you very much and best regards!
Rolando
Hi Steven
The switches and potentiometers (not original) I bought here in Buenos Aires for many years. The most problematic, indeed, are the input selector switches and sorting modes. At the time I did a survey of the signal path to suit the circuit Mc Intosh.
But I changed my mind. I am not going to use because the connection would be really difficult, quite likely to capture buzz, etc. And, in 30 years things have changed a lot in audio. Input for tape heads? Removed. Input Tuner? Do not listen to radio on this computer .. Currently only need a preamp with tone controls for phono MM, (I can use the new high-output MC capsules in MM) to small corrections of vinyl I own.
So the circuit again to relieve you just leave it pertains to and ecualizacón Phono RIAA.
Best regards
Rolando
Dear Marcos
I Sorry, correction :
Circuit C:137 = .47 uf.
Your recomendation = 4.7 uf.
Because ?
Regards !
Rolando
Dear Rolando,
I suppose you want to use your preamplifier as an separated piece.
the reason for the need of more capacitance is to prevent loss of low frequencies when connected to a amplifier with low impedance input (say, 15KOhm or less). Don't forget MA6100 is a integrated amplifier, where the power amplifier is tailored to operate with this preamp in the same cabinet.
The buffer resistor I suggested in the output is for some short-circuit protection and to prevent rf oscillations when connected to the capacitance of the output cables.
Regards,
Marcos
I suppose you want to use your preamplifier as an separated piece.
the reason for the need of more capacitance is to prevent loss of low frequencies when connected to a amplifier with low impedance input (say, 15KOhm or less). Don't forget MA6100 is a integrated amplifier, where the power amplifier is tailored to operate with this preamp in the same cabinet.
The buffer resistor I suggested in the output is for some short-circuit protection and to prevent rf oscillations when connected to the capacitance of the output cables.
Regards,
Marcos
Steven:
A good wash with isopropil alcoohol and some silicon grease in the contacts will do real miracles with old rotary and sliding switches and potentiometers, and maintain new ones as new for long time. This include rotary switches of multimeters.
If your switches are in hopeless condition, some russian multipole/multiwaffer rotary switches available in EBAY may be wired to simulate the custom switches on McIntosh.
Rolando,
For your Primaluna Tubed amplifier, the original 0,47uF is good. making a hi-pass of about
5 Hz with 220K from MA6100 output and a 100K parallel from Primaluna input.
Marcos
A good wash with isopropil alcoohol and some silicon grease in the contacts will do real miracles with old rotary and sliding switches and potentiometers, and maintain new ones as new for long time. This include rotary switches of multimeters.
If your switches are in hopeless condition, some russian multipole/multiwaffer rotary switches available in EBAY may be wired to simulate the custom switches on McIntosh.
Rolando,
For your Primaluna Tubed amplifier, the original 0,47uF is good. making a hi-pass of about
5 Hz with 220K from MA6100 output and a 100K parallel from Primaluna input.
Marcos
Dear Marcos
This is correct? (according interpret)
Very thanks !
Regards
Rolando
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Hi Rolando,
220 KOhm I mentioned is the R169. What I previously suggested to you is to put a 220 Ohm (and not 220KOhm) in series with the output, exactly where you draw a 220KOhm resistor.
The 100KOhm value in my calculation is the input resistance of your Primaluna.
This manner, R169 (220KOhm) is in parallel with 100KOhm of Primaluna Input, wich make a hi-pass of about 5Hz with the original 0,47uF output capacitor in your drawing.
No need here to put a large capacitor, because the original 0.47uF is enough for your case, is what I mean.
Marcos
220 KOhm I mentioned is the R169. What I previously suggested to you is to put a 220 Ohm (and not 220KOhm) in series with the output, exactly where you draw a 220KOhm resistor.
The 100KOhm value in my calculation is the input resistance of your Primaluna.
This manner, R169 (220KOhm) is in parallel with 100KOhm of Primaluna Input, wich make a hi-pass of about 5Hz with the original 0,47uF output capacitor in your drawing.
No need here to put a large capacitor, because the original 0.47uF is enough for your case, is what I mean.
Marcos
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Dear Marcos
Now I'm clear, this extra resistance in the signal path made little sense, so I preferred to consult again.
Now to buy the missing components (I get a transformer for the power, 220 volts Primary, Secondary 50 + 50 Volts and 100 Amp (5 watts) and once made all to produce the circuit boards!
( ecualization RIAA, tone controls and power supply )
Very thanks!!
Regards
Rolando
Now I'm clear, this extra resistance in the signal path made little sense, so I preferred to consult again.
Now to buy the missing components (I get a transformer for the power, 220 volts Primary, Secondary 50 + 50 Volts and 100 Amp (5 watts) and once made all to produce the circuit boards!
( ecualization RIAA, tone controls and power supply )
Very thanks!!
Regards
Rolando
Hello. I'm calculating the power transformer (PT) for the preamplifier.
Deputy circuit. I see that I should get DC voltages are very high (150 VDC), do not understand why ...
This value after passing through the regulator will be reduced to two voltages required, 75 VDC and 20 VDC.
I calculated a secondary 110 volts + 110 volts AC - 100 mA aprox, is that correct?
http://electricosonline.com/Privado/...ca/fuentes.htm
If Vo = ? x 1.4142 - 1 = 150 VDC
106.78 Va x 1.4142 -1 = 150.00
It would be great if someone directly measured value on your MC Intosh MA-6100 .....
thanks for your suggestions, friends
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Deputy circuit. I see that I should get DC voltages are very high (150 VDC), do not understand why ...
This value after passing through the regulator will be reduced to two voltages required, 75 VDC and 20 VDC.
I calculated a secondary 110 volts + 110 volts AC - 100 mA aprox, is that correct?
http://electricosonline.com/Privado/...ca/fuentes.htm
If Vo = ? x 1.4142 - 1 = 150 VDC
106.78 Va x 1.4142 -1 = 150.00
It would be great if someone directly measured value on your MC Intosh MA-6100 .....
thanks for your suggestions, friends
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