the SPH68 is better in the highs!!
http://www.monacor.de/typo3/index.php?id=75&L=&act=8&act_sub=25&artid=2154&spr=DE&typ=u
http://www.monacor.de/typo3/index.php?id=75&L=&act=8&act_sub=25&artid=2154&spr=DE&typ=u
giantstairs said:
Straightforward BR. With an unfinished vent too, from the pictures.
They tell you want it is. It's the Jordan VTL (or appears to be -plans freely available on the Jordan site) with the Monacor dropped into it. Can't honestly say I think the VTL is all that great -one of GM's MLTLs would be a better bet for the Jordans IMO, but YMMV as always. Cab's will be mirrored, with the terminus on the base of the main box. That's why they're raised above their plinth.
It almost certainly will need correcting for step loss. Likelihood is that they haven't bothered.
Yes, providing you don't expect too much (like LF transient response equal to a 15in JBL or similar). I liked my BIB pipe-horns with them myself. For what they are, they did a nice job. SPH60X isn't great up-top; needs a supertweeter from about 10KHz upward. Compensates by being the best of the bunch in the LF. Swings & roundabouts, as always.
Scottmoose said:
oops, missed that. nice looking design though.
In the review they look well out from the walls and srajan should certainly recognize a need for bsc if there was such. it sounded as if the bass was quite good.well, that's neither here nor there because i don't think there are too many compact full rangers short of a 15in jbl that can pull that off.
srajan seems to rate them quite highly and he is no stranger to nice sounding speakers. in the review he states they're in a different league from the hornshoppe horns which used fe108s and now fe126 drivers, some favorites around here.
perhaps the drivers are better served in this design than the bibs. i built a 2xfold bib with these for a friend and found them too dark for my taste but with much better bass than my 108ez bibs.
worth saying that i have no interest in these speakers except for the fact that i have 2 monacor sph60x drivers and would like a low investment (time and $) design with a high enjoyment factor, something these guys seemed to have pulled off.
giantstairs said:
Nothing to be confused about. A) Everything's relative, and B) People tend to make assumptions about what is & is not possible / realistic from a speaker. Remember, reviewers are reviewers. They don't often know, or care, a whole lot about the technicalities of design. Not denigrating reviewers, or Srajan, just pointing out a general fact. In addition, as most of their nearest equivalents don't bother correcting for step loss either, you just get used to it (assuming you realise what's happening anyway, rather than simply assuming that's what you get). Anyway, it will be fairly decent, but could be better if corrected. They're just drivers & conform to the laws of physics.
Perfectly true, but it's not quite neither here nor there, which is why I mentioned it in the first place. It's that old expectation thing: it can work both ways -too much or too little. Perspective is key & it's always worth pointing such things out. Obvious? Perhaps -problem with that is that the obvious is frequently overlooked.
Then I'd model a basic BR for them (which is all those linked ones are) & build it.
They should do nicely for what they are. Certainly be different from Ed's Horns, that's for sure. Beat them in some areas no doubt, loose out in others. Irrespective of the cabinet, you'll still find them too 'dark' sounding, run solo though. That's just the driver -it simply doesn't have much HF -12KHz or so is about your lot. I added a couple of cheap tweeters I had lying around capped off at ~10Khz which sorted that out. Nice el cheapo system.
jordan vtl
thanks dave. wow, that looks bad
is there more to the story, as with the bib, or is it just a bad design?
i currently have my sph60x pair on open baffles breaking in and the amount of bass surprises me. i thought of enabling them but it looks to be very difficult with the big whizzer. perhaps puzzlecoat or microgloss?
thanks dave. wow, that looks bad
is there more to the story, as with the bib, or is it just a bad design?
i currently have my sph60x pair on open baffles breaking in and the amount of bass surprises me. i thought of enabling them but it looks to be very difficult with the big whizzer. perhaps puzzlecoat or microgloss?
I just wanted to thank you all, guys!
I chose that folded ML TQWT by Bob Brines.
I`m using a small, but excellent amplifier from a Serbian manufacturer Dayens - Ampino and they sound great!!
I chose that folded ML TQWT by Bob Brines.
I`m using a small, but excellent amplifier from a Serbian manufacturer Dayens - Ampino and they sound great!!
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