On snake oil and personal experience..

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Steve Eddy said:


Sorry.

Was a reference to some lyrics from the song Pepper, by Butthole Surfers.

I much prefer Terrence McKenna's lyrics from "Dream Matrix Telemetry" ;)

I somehow shattered the membrane
between myself and ordinary space.
I carried the trip into the room with me.
Very rapid transmission of data.
It only lasts a few hundred seconds
You awaken from a dream.

I can see it clearly,
after a time I think it sticks with you.
The details.
Some quality of seeing and understanding.
A dimension has been added to ordinary perception.
And you will have the complete experience in the dream.
It's in the body.
You can do this on the natch, it is not far away.
Outrageous possibilities lie immediately to hand
and are virtually only a toke away."
 
Peter Daniel said:


I much prefer Terrence McKenna's lyrics from "Dream Matrix Telemetry" ;)

I somehow shattered the membrane
between myself and ordinary space.
I carried the trip into the room with me.
Very rapid transmission of data.
It only lasts a few hundred seconds
You awaken from a dream.

I can see it clearly,
after a time I think it sticks with you.
The details.
Some quality of seeing and understanding.
A dimension has been added to ordinary perception.
And you will have the complete experience in the dream.
It's in the body.
You can do this on the natch, it is not far away.
Outrageous possibilities lie immediately to hand
and are virtually only a toke away."

Hehehe. That works. A bit "deep" for some folks perhaps. For them I'd recommend something like The Fraternity of Man's Don't Bogart Me:

Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.
Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.

Roll another one
Just like the other one.
This one's burnt to the end
Come on and be a friend.

Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.
Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.

Ro-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oll another one
Just like the other one.
You've been hanging on to it
And I sure would like a hit.

Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me.
Don't bogart that joint, my friend
Pass it over to me


:)

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Peter Daniel said:
It's been observed that some people are more inclined to experiment with some "exotic" concepts and don't automatically reject everything that is suggested to them, while others classify it as "snake oil".


It seems to me that those who interpret everything (they don't understand) as "snake oil", simply didn't experience that "glimpse of the truth" yet;)


I just read this thread for the first time. I had to chuckle to myself as I watched how quickly the two camps formed, each taking sides. One espoused listening to the inner voice, while the other poo pooed it as impossible to prove mumbo jumbo.

I'd like to paraphrase a quote from a favorite writer of mine:

Faith and Reason are like a pair of shoes. You can go a lot farther with both than you can with just one alone.
 
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