Model-dependant realism

[DF96]

I have a tendency to miss the point if it is expressed in some language other than fairly standard English; especially languages which from a distance look like English but don't mean the same things.

Two plus two equals five.

Ah, now I understand - we have model-dependent arithmetic too!

 

[H E Pennypacker]

Which one?

 

[H E Pennypacker]

DF96 and Sy, I guess I am flattered that you both find my modest intellect so threatening.

The amplifier is part of a system to reproduce sounds, sorry my English is too fast and loose for you. An amplifier cannot make any sounds unless part of a system.

The moral of my little story was just an observation that we have really only ventured down a few paths for audio reproduction.

First it was the human voice and instruments, then we had the Edison / Victrola mechanical era which ended up in direct competition with the radio (electronics) which transitioned into a hybrid technology of the two with the mechanical records and electronic amplifiers. Now most of use primarily electronics for reproduction models.

 

[SY]

An amplifier cannot make any sounds unless part of a system.

That's why the term "signal" is used in that context.

 

[SY]

Ah, now I understand - we have model-dependent arithmetic too!

2+2=5, Two plus two equals five. - YouTube

 

[M Gregg]

Ah, now I understand - we have model-dependent arithmetic too!

Correct..

Regards
M. Gregg

 

[M Gregg]

Just for fun,

Lets look at it like this...ah but...that would make it like this then...

Grand Illusions - Optical Illusions - Dr Angry and Mr Calm

Regards
M. Gregg

 

[DF96]

DF96 and Sy, I guess I am flattered that you both find my modest intellect so threatening.

I wasn't aware that I should feel threatened, or is that another word which has temporarily acquired a different meaning?

The moral of my little story was just an observation that we have really only ventured down a few paths for audio reproduction.

First it was the human voice and instruments,

Strange. I thought that the human voice and instruments are not reproducing audio, but producing it. Has 'reproduction' also changed its meaning?

Now most of use primarily electronics for reproduction models.

Last time I looked I found that loudspeakers are electromechanical objects. Pure electronics is good at processing signals but poor at interfacing with people.

 

[H E Pennypacker]

Strange. I thought that the human voice and instruments are not reproducing audio, but producing it. Has 'reproduction' also changed its meaning?

Reproducing stories and songs.

 

[H E Pennypacker]

Here is an interesting model for reproducing speech at one time.

Vocoder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[DF96]

Silly me, when you said 'audio reproduction' I should have realised that you meant 'story reproduction'.

 

[Philosophil]

I think multiplying realities when explanatory models overlap is the wrong way to go. A better option is simply to acknowledge that reality is far more complex, dynamic, and open-ended than our idealized theoretical models are able to adequately capture.

( p.s. I'm still mulling over the earlier post about citations. I'm not sure if most would see the relevance and I'm a little reluctant about bringing the other aspects of my life into these kinds of casual social interactions.)

 

[DF96]

Yes. Overlapping models should be regarded as a weakness in those models. It may be the best we can do, but we should not assume that nature itself is subject to our weaknesses in understanding.