Well I'm seriously considering building a set of these with the Castle type enclosure(forward and up firing).
My listening situation is a little atypical as I am listening off axis and at 90 degrees from the speakers most of the time due to necessity.
Imaging is not as important in this scenario
I do appreciate transparency through the midband as well as dynamic ease and expressiveness(all easily measurable)
I also need to have the speakers placed fairly close the back wall. I will probably include a sub at some point as I just don't see how the two little drivers are going to provide the appropriate bass for electronic music.
Just thinking out loud really....
Right now I'm using New Large Advent Econowaves with a class D amp and Emotiva USP-1. I listen to a wide variety of music at very different levels. which has always made my choices more difficult. I also have a keen sense of aesthetics, which negates the possibility of any monolithic enclosures.
I do like that the USP-1 has a second set of outs that provide a variable high pass for use with a sub. I can imagine using the small full ranger floor standers with a PP 6bq5 amp and a powered sub.
My listening situation is a little atypical as I am listening off axis and at 90 degrees from the speakers most of the time due to necessity.
Imaging is not as important in this scenario
I do appreciate transparency through the midband as well as dynamic ease and expressiveness(all easily measurable
)I also need to have the speakers placed fairly close the back wall. I will probably include a sub at some point as I just don't see how the two little drivers are going to provide the appropriate bass for electronic music.
Just thinking out loud really....
Right now I'm using New Large Advent Econowaves with a class D amp and Emotiva USP-1. I listen to a wide variety of music at very different levels. which has always made my choices more difficult. I also have a keen sense of aesthetics, which negates the possibility of any monolithic enclosures.
I do like that the USP-1 has a second set of outs that provide a variable high pass for use with a sub. I can imagine using the small full ranger floor standers with a PP 6bq5 amp and a powered sub.
I will start gluing up my Microtowers this week. I'll post a few pictures when it resembles a speaker
Didn't these have anything to do with the microTower?
HUMAN Speakers: EPI 201 information
There's a pair for sale in Sweden for around $125.
HUMAN Speakers: EPI 201 information
There's a pair for sale in Sweden for around $125.
not exactly - these utilized 2 modules of the 8" woofer and 1" inverted dome tweeter in a sealed enclosure
the EPI microtower family ranged from the basic MT1 to MT3
HUMAN Speakers: EPI Microtower Group Photo
At least in the first generation iteration with which I'm familiar, all above models used no larger than 4" wide band/woofers ( the MT2 & 3 also incorporating tweeters), in damped pipes. We never sold the MT3s - at that level, most folks were relatively easily up-sold to the "400 Mini-tower" - IIRC 4 modules of 6" woofer and tweeter. It's been a while (over 35yrs) so some of these recollections are a bit rusty, and the website's not much better.
I gotta say that it's been a while since I visited the Human speakers site, and had to laff at the following:
The InHUMAN Speaker is (a parody of) what happens when someone tries to figure out a way to sell outrageously expensive and unnecessary speakers to people with a desperate need to buy toys that only a few can afford. Considering the simple alternatives available if you do need high volume in a large room (like the HUMAN 88-41, or a copy of the EPI 1000), it is really impossible to justify such a complex, dominating product as this.
However. When you are looking for something that, while not as conspicuous as a yacht in the marina or your driveway, still displays your fine taste in absurdly outrageous consumer spending, you need something more than practical. You need something grandiose and ridiculous.
The InHUMAN is just such a product. Thirty six 8" woofers and thirty six 1" tweeters are mounted in each cabinet (some are not visible from the front). They will reproduce everything from the rumbly inaudible bass of a nuclear explosion to the subtle tinkling of ice-covered leaves in a winter morning breeze. It is almost like being somewhere real!
Now, while attending thermonuclear tests in the desert (Viva Las Vegas!) has gone out of style, might I suggest that actually being there is generally a better use of your time and money. Whatever is left over from your trip you can send to me so I can spend more time writing!
These are big, expensive speakers. They will handle over four kilowatts of power each. Listening to them is like being at a symphony, without the black tie. It's like being at a rock concert, without the the musicians, the spontaneity, the energy, and the other people. It's like being on the earthquake fault line without having to stand under a doorway or turn off the gas.
They can even accurately reproduce the sound of a tricked-out "boombox on wheels" shattering the still evening air in June.
Seriously, these would be really cool speakers, but an utter waste of my time and your money to build. Let's get our priorities straight here...
In this price range, I'd go for a model that you didn't name - the paper driver version marketed in North America as CSS EL70, and elsewhere as CHP70.
It's just a matter of personal preference - as much work as Mark has put into the engineering and manufacturing process control of his entire family of metal cone drivers, this 70mm paper cone unit is pretty nifty. That's a technical term
OTOH, the Alpair 7 is in an altogether difference class - well worth every penny of the double cost over the CHR/EL/CHP 70s.
To be honest, it's been several years since I last heard the WR/FR125s, so I can't describe the sonic differences, but it's certainly been my experience that the XBL motored WR/FR125SR exhibits the same unpleasant symptoms as the SDX7 when X-Max is exceeded in under-damped vented alignments.
They are quite different. CHR has a larger range of application.
Given the choice between FR125SReN & CHR70.2eN i'd pick EL70eN.
dave
Chris, your recall is good.
The microTower project actually started as a suggestion that we build a tribute to the MiniTower (only mini because the Tower was 6 foot tall). I have the 8 WR125ST & tweeters for that project still. Still thinking about the woofer part.
dave
Pretty much. One of the newer revisions though -- the feet may not be original. And selling for more than they cost new (and a lot more than i'd pay)
dave
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note that some revisions to port tuning would be required, but pretty much, yes - a pair of EL70 per enclosure would not be shy on bass performance,
I need to build an inexpensive pair of speakers for a friend. The microTowers look just right (cost + size), but I'm uncertain about one thing. While the plans show multiple choices for the number/brand of drivers, the multi-driver versions get the lions share of comments. How do the mono-driver enclosures (using el70's) compare to the castle versions? Are they anemic compared to the castles? Are outputs subjectively similar with the castles adding air and ambiance? What should I expect using a single front facing driver per enclosure?
Thanks
Thanks
More drivers give more options and more output. The single driver versions make a very nice speaker with good bass.
dave
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