michel,
An LC circuit by itself isn't regulated any more than a simple bank of capacitors is. Depending on whether you choose L-C (the L filter), C-L, C-L-C (the Pi filter), etc. you're going to end up with somewhat different voltage and current ratings. In general, if you start with a capacitor coming off of the rectifier, you've going to get higher voltage, but less current capability. If you start with an inductor, you'll get less voltage, but more current.
Grey
An LC circuit by itself isn't regulated any more than a simple bank of capacitors is. Depending on whether you choose L-C (the L filter), C-L, C-L-C (the Pi filter), etc. you're going to end up with somewhat different voltage and current ratings. In general, if you start with a capacitor coming off of the rectifier, you've going to get higher voltage, but less current capability. If you start with an inductor, you'll get less voltage, but more current.
Grey
re LC regulation
Hi Michel,
Basic theory starts with a Voltage Supply which has no internal resistance: at any load the same output voltage is produced.
In RealLife things change: does the output stage needs Voltage (tubes most like do) or current (as solid-state's usually do).
In the tube-era CLC filters quite suited because the current-changes were low. (changes of 200mA were considered HUGE)
In the solid-state-era current changes are HUGE indeed (rail-current in my JLH design runs from 0 - 4000mA's and it only produces 15W).
Any regulations costs power and any output current delivered to the speakers must eventually pass through the regulating devices: that is one main reason why the larger High-End Amps only use big capacitor banks and no regulated power supply.
Jos
Hi Michel,
Basic theory starts with a Voltage Supply which has no internal resistance: at any load the same output voltage is produced.
In RealLife things change: does the output stage needs Voltage (tubes most like do) or current (as solid-state's usually do).
In the tube-era CLC filters quite suited because the current-changes were low. (changes of 200mA were considered HUGE)
In the solid-state-era current changes are HUGE indeed (rail-current in my JLH design runs from 0 - 4000mA's and it only produces 15W).
Any regulations costs power and any output current delivered to the speakers must eventually pass through the regulating devices: that is one main reason why the larger High-End Amps only use big capacitor banks and no regulated power supply.
Jos
Software to check out your LC ...
http://www.duncanamps.com/psud2/
Very nice (free) program for designing power supplies.
Petter
http://www.duncanamps.com/psud2/
Very nice (free) program for designing power supplies.
Petter
If you're into no-feedback circuits a LC or CLC is very effective to adjust the sound.
A normal rectifier-bridge and capacitor doesn't have a even impedance, and this is clearly heard as a closed in and undynamic bass from around 50-150Hz. A suitable smoothing trough a LC or CLC makes the overall sound better.
My suggestion is CLC for the output stage and a regulation for the gain stages, and the best regulation I have found so far is a two-stage regulation, where the first is a passively regulated BJT followed by a midsize cap (app. 2200uF) and the second a passively regulated MOSFET that is followed by a small high quality foil cap.(1-2,2uF).
Feedback in the regulator have the same effect on the sound as feedback in the amp circuit itself so please use as little as possible.
/Janne
A normal rectifier-bridge and capacitor doesn't have a even impedance, and this is clearly heard as a closed in and undynamic bass from around 50-150Hz. A suitable smoothing trough a LC or CLC makes the overall sound better.
My suggestion is CLC for the output stage and a regulation for the gain stages, and the best regulation I have found so far is a two-stage regulation, where the first is a passively regulated BJT followed by a midsize cap (app. 2200uF) and the second a passively regulated MOSFET that is followed by a small high quality foil cap.(1-2,2uF).
Feedback in the regulator have the same effect on the sound as feedback in the amp circuit itself so please use as little as possible.
/Janne
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