my 8-legs.
Here ya go, MBL pre + power amp, with Avantgarde horns.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9sfleeQyRaI/T-c5Mb6zpyI/AAAAAAAA1gU/zJye3UTHNYg/s1600/pic3.jpg
($3.3M, you get the 40 knot 112ft yacht for free)
I'll bet you can show me a fully gimbaled, gyro stablized vinyl setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVLCIZK0-cg
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The MBL 6010D uses AD797 ICs. I believe the volume potentiometer is made by Penny and Giles. The power supply is a discrete regulated design. They originally used metal film resistors from Beyschlag type MBB0207. I think is sounds good.
No sense? Interesting, from my POV I see plenty of strange talk about mystical parts, and ultra special speaker drivers, perfectly manicured to deliver magic sound ...
Most people in audio have heard outstanding sound at some point or other, but unlike most I don't ascribe this to magical happenings, super esoteric components or unobtainable kit. I was fortunate enough to achieve this myself, on very ordinary gear. Now, being a logical kind of guy I reasoned that if I could this once then I can do it any number of times - and, the universe being reasonably consistent,
, that has proved to the case.So, rather then trying for the n'th variation of ordinary, uninteresting hifi sound I've been pursuing an understanding of the criteria that leads to impressive, convincing reproduction. Very frustrating a lot of the time, but very satisfying when everything falls into place.
I have to admit there is another motive for talking about such matters - I'm sick to death of crappy PA sound, I gave up going to live shows, musicals and such years ago because the sound quality was such a turnoff - I want to enjoy the experience, not suffer through it. So my, probably silly, hope is that talking about such matters will get it through a few thick skulls that there is a better way ...
Minus the gyro, I made a damped one for a TT on a full-time liveaboard.
(Total revamped 66ft ex-commercial inland vessel from 1905, renamed to Inshallah. Owner was in his 70s when he switched from shore to ship living, I've monitored the conversion from the grid blast and welding till the design/installation of the electric switchboard)
But it shouldn't be another story altogether ... from my POV there should be a continuum, from good home audio through to the most powerful PA's - the only variation should be the maximum SPLs the setup is capable of. Extreme sound levels means that the battle then turns to controlling intrinsic noise levels - which is not a problem when the spacing is that of PA systems.
25 years ago I heard a PA that took my breath away, it truly delivered 'magic' sound, vastly superior to essentially all, including ultra expensive, home audio - dynamics, clarity, zero audible distortion. So at least a few had, have the knowledge, expertise to get it right...
25 years ago I heard a PA that took my breath away, it truly delivered 'magic' sound, vastly superior to essentially all, including ultra expensive, home audio - dynamics, clarity, zero audible distortion. So at least a few had, have the knowledge, expertise to get it right...
................................................................................... i heard in Melbourne there's good Hi-Fi and even an F1 race ...
You must have super sensitive hearing to hear the F1 race!
Jacco,
When this:
SuperYacht of the Week: Classic motor yacht Khalidia - SuperYacht of the Week - SuperyachtTimes.com
belonged to John Bloom, a failed washing machine (Rolls) door to door sales guy, it was impounded in Dublin. I stood on the quay alongside where it was parked and noticed that it had a gimbal mounted Garrard 301!!...that was in the mid 1960s.
When this:
SuperYacht of the Week: Classic motor yacht Khalidia - SuperYacht of the Week - SuperyachtTimes.com
belonged to John Bloom, a failed washing machine (Rolls) door to door sales guy, it was impounded in Dublin. I stood on the quay alongside where it was parked and noticed that it had a gimbal mounted Garrard 301!!...that was in the mid 1960s.
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John,
I don't know if you had anything to do with the HCA1200 Parasound amps but I have two of those, one with toasted output devices, my fault, and another that has worked for years. I must say they seem well built and have plenty of output devices and I have never seen one overheat, but at the same time I prefer the sound of an old Harman Kardan over the Parasound though it has much less power and isn't built as well. The H/K has ridiculously undersized heatsinks and only a few output devices but it just sings. So perhaps the note you just put up accounts for the Voicing you are talking about, the Parasound just sounds lifeless.
I don't know if you had anything to do with the HCA1200 Parasound amps but I have two of those, one with toasted output devices, my fault, and another that has worked for years. I must say they seem well built and have plenty of output devices and I have never seen one overheat, but at the same time I prefer the sound of an old Harman Kardan over the Parasound though it has much less power and isn't built as well. The H/K has ridiculously undersized heatsinks and only a few output devices but it just sings. So perhaps the note you just put up accounts for the Voicing you are talking about, the Parasound just sounds lifeless.
Frank,
There have always been so many bad PA systems and many times it can be the speakers themselves or just an engineer with tin ears. There are some really good PA speakers out there but they cost big money and have to be connected to a well designed amplification system and all the other outboard equipment. We aren't even talking about some of the terrible mixing consoles out there, if the board is crappy sounding it doesn't matter what you do after that. PA is as much an art as a science, I have a brother in-law who can walk up to the console and change a few settings and it sounds like a different system, it really has so much to do with the engineer.
There have always been so many bad PA systems and many times it can be the speakers themselves or just an engineer with tin ears. There are some really good PA speakers out there but they cost big money and have to be connected to a well designed amplification system and all the other outboard equipment. We aren't even talking about some of the terrible mixing consoles out there, if the board is crappy sounding it doesn't matter what you do after that. PA is as much an art as a science, I have a brother in-law who can walk up to the console and change a few settings and it sounds like a different system, it really has so much to do with the engineer.
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