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mid position is probably position inducing least thinking aboout

P2 maxed - least Aleph CCS modulation - acting more like pure CCS

P2 minimized, highest Aleph CCS modulation

you can do without distortion measurements , that involving precise counting of turns , listening and writing impressions ........ in incremental steps

btw. P2 is having nothing with DC settings - one end of it being AC coupled to rest of the world
 
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Thanks ZM, all good info.

Yes, p2 is cap separated, no affect on dc. I had wrong instructions.

If you can affect the sound of an amp this much with just one trimmer/pot, it could be useful to have few settings marked, and instead of multiturn use normal pot, stick it on the front and allow the listener to select.
From dark and soft to bright and sparkly. And all in between.
Fun stuff.
 
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this is nonsense they wrote about f3 setup...
 

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Thanks ZM, all good info.

Yes, p2 is cap separated, no affect on dc. I had wrong instructions.

If you can affect the sound of an amp this much with just one trimmer/pot, it could be useful to have few settings marked, and instead of multiturn use normal pot, stick it on the front and allow the listener to select.
From dark and soft to bright and sparkly. And all in between.
Fun stuff.

that would be too easy

and it was never good to make level of lazy idiocy even higher :rofl:

this is nonsense they wrote about f3 setup...


well, that's internet ......... :clown:
 
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standard keratherm from diystore
torque unknown
I am considering changing just q2 for mica
aaah, I did not measure heatsink temp, but it was just warm to touch, not hot


other question, what do people prefer, monoblocks, or single chassis
I can make two separate power supplies, that way diode bridges do not get too hot
how about switching power supplies? anyone tried?
 
Chas,

That’s a great idea. I never thought of wiring the transformer that way. I’m repurposing one of my amps for the F3, and this will save me money and time since it has 2 AS-3218 transformers in it.

I have already order the parts for it. Can’t wait to get it running.
 
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page 2 and last page of F3 service manual is showing that

you think that Pa was going to buy 36Vac Donuts, while having zillion 2x18Vac already?

he even did use same cap bank pcbs, two rails connected in series....... at least that's shown in mentioned file

I'm 100% sure it was published here, not originated from my personal Spy in FW/PL
 
I used a 500VA Toroidy 2 x 36V with a dual-mono supply.

(Note: don't treat this as a datapoint on the subject of "how large?". I got a 500VA so the transformer would cost more than the shipping. There's just something galling about it being the other way around to get a 300VA to my doorstep.)
 
Thanks for the information. As I think through repurposing one of my amps for the F3 I could actually keep the current power supply.

I would just take the negative rail of the existing +/-24v power supply to the ground on the F3 board and the ground on the power supply goes to the chassis ground through a thermistor.

Well at least now have large caps for a Singing Bush or Lazy Singing Bush.

By the way I have been in situations where I need a 12 cent resistor and the shipping is $15. I start thinking about what else I need so it makes sense to place the order.