Extremely difficult: Tweeter with best low-end performance...Please help!

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Kevin Haskins

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critofur said:
"Ears are easily fooled"??? Who's ears are you talking about? 99% of speakers commercial or otherwise will not fool me into believing that there is a real cello playing right there in front of me if I close my eyes. And I've never claimed to have "good ears". I will say though, that to me, most speakers sound like crap and I find them irritating to listen to for more than a few minutes.

Measurements can be a useful tool, but, their importance is INSIGNIFICANT compared to how a speakers sounds. In the end, our ears ARE what is important when it comes to speakers.
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I'm not talking about the difference between live music and recorded. I'm talking about trying to design by ear alone. It is like flying a plane. You can do it without instruments but they give you more information that tends to be more reliable than your perceptions.

The final goal is to get a loudspeaker that sounds good. I'll agree with that and if they measurements don't facilitate that process they are useless. But I know for a fact that they do facilitate the process. At least they do if you know what you are doing and you know how to use them.
 
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alspe

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planet10 said:
Not necessarily. One of my favorite tweeters, FF85KeN, is about 86 dB and can be XOed really low (ie ~300 Hz).

dave
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Nice to know. How about directivity? Are those usual other fullranges which sound shut in and lacking air when listening distance is 2,5 m or if you listen even a little bit off-axis?

Big 2-way monitor with 89 dB bass (-3 dB BSC at XO) and 86 dB Fostex. XO around 400 Hz? How this sounds?
 
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alspe said:
Have to look for that. Though I'm looking for big standmounter, not side woofer. Maybe you get better integration to bass with front woofer.
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FAST is a concept. Woofer + a (nominal) FR as a mid-tweeter, XO ~100-400 Hz. You could certainly do a big standmounter woth all the drivers on the front.

In Tysen, integration with the woofer is very good. Sidemounting (& careful toe-in) all are part of the integration.

dave
 
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