Drive NOS AD1865/62,PCM1704/02/63,TDA1541 from FIFO: Universal I2S-PCM driver board

Jump to Latest
iancanada

iancanada

Member
Joined 2009
twitter.com/iancanadaTT
Paid Member
palmito said:
HI Ian. For those (like me) who would like to setup two dacs, one NOS and one not NOS and have FIFO for both, do you know if you will offer another batch of FIFO boards for the current GB that's labeled "if it happens"? Thanks.
Click to expand...

I can still supply part of those who on the FIFO waiting list for this time, but I don't think I have enough to supply whole waiting list. If more people want, I may consider order more new PCB for next time.

Nice weekend

Ian
 
C

casshan

Member
Joined 2006
iancanada said:
I can still supply part of those who on the FIFO waiting list for this time, but I don't think I have enough to supply whole waiting list. If more people want, I may consider order more new PCB for next time.

Nice weekend

Ian
Click to expand...
I'm one of them in waiting list of FIFO and this i2s-pcm driver board for quite a long time, hope I can get both of them to build my own NOS PCM 1704 DAC!

Thanks Ian!
 
M

mksung

Member
Joined 2006
Total 129

TV Man x 2
merlin el mago
rtd
jameshillj
erin x1 (or 2)
Nikola Krivorov x1
Rupor54
vitalica
analog_sa x 1
andrea_mori x 5
dsavitsk
tagheuer
hirez69 x 2
ccliu x 2
BDL
cddumat
regal x 2
zoran
Jogi
Zen(zenelectro) x 2
Buzzforb
SPWON
crobbins5421 X 2
marcus1 x1 (or 2)
casshan x 2
Dweeb99 X 2
jackw X 2
kazap X 2
danzup x 3
Giordano x2
Tony_T
Tubo x1
clivem x2
noizas x4
JoeyDD x2
skullaudio
dinos8746 x2
dvb-projekt
bisesik x2
guglielmope x1
Valeriano x1
mhgawel x1
av-trouvaille x 1 (or 2)
iloveswan x1
dtses
Flyboi X1
Lil' Knight x1 (or 2)
skippyboy x1
acccruz x1 (or 2)
WhiteBull x1
hksidney x 1
vts2006 x 3
JustBuildLspkAS.x3 &1 fifo kit finished for pcm1704 (ihave AD1862 ,pcm63,pcm1704)
54: PET-240 2 * TDA1541
TonyB
damohpi x1
iloveswan x 1
Joseph K x 2
mefistofelez x2 (pcm63P)
JLOP x1 (WaveIO, AD1865 NOS SRPP)
sceglar x1
4me2ctv x 1
tubesguy x 1
ctrange x 1
spm x 1
Joonas x1
Loboone x 1
flowerpot x 1
pavelal x 1
Steve Ha x 1
new2hifi x 1
Superdad x 1 (WaveIO, PCM1704K, discrete I/V)
Greg Stewart x 1
panther5429 x 1
supra x 3
Clsidxxl x 1
Uchi Deshi x 1
kvl x 1
palmito x 1
davej x 1
crowlie x 1
WhiteBull x2 (and one Dual XO Board, in case ones left)
nedi x 1
gonmar x 1
LuisMCP x 1
chansiukwing x 2
tassosk x 1
NATDBERG x 2 (NOS dual differential 2x D20400 project, NOS 384KHz TDA1541A project later)
Jcastellano x1
Marek x1
SVStube x 3
mksung x 1
 
B

brettlb

Member
Joined 2009
Total 133

TV Man x 2
merlin el mago
rtd
jameshillj
erin x1 (or 2)
Nikola Krivorov x1
Rupor54
vitalica
analog_sa x 1
andrea_mori x 5
dsavitsk
tagheuer
hirez69 x 2
ccliu x 2
BDL
cddumat
regal x 2
zoran
Jogi
Zen(zenelectro) x 2
Buzzforb
SPWON
crobbins5421 X 2
marcus1 x1 (or 2)
casshan x 2
Dweeb99 X 2
jackw X 2
kazap X 2
danzup x 3
Giordano x2
Tony_T
Tubo x1
clivem x2
noizas x4
JoeyDD x2
skullaudio
dinos8746 x2
dvb-projekt
bisesik x2
guglielmope x1
Valeriano x1
mhgawel x1
av-trouvaille x 1 (or 2)
iloveswan x1
dtses
Flyboi X1
Lil' Knight x1 (or 2)
skippyboy x1
acccruz x1 (or 2)
WhiteBull x1
hksidney x 1
vts2006 x 3
JustBuildLspkAS.x3 &1 fifo kit finished for pcm1704 (ihave AD1862 ,pcm63,pcm1704)
54: PET-240 2 * TDA1541
TonyB
damohpi x1
iloveswan x 1
Joseph K x 2
mefistofelez x2 (pcm63P)
JLOP x1 (WaveIO, AD1865 NOS SRPP)
sceglar x1
4me2ctv x 1
tubesguy x 1
ctrange x 1
spm x 1
Joonas x1
Loboone x 1
flowerpot x 1
pavelal x 1
Steve Ha x 1
new2hifi x 1
Superdad x 1 (WaveIO, PCM1704K, discrete I/V)
Greg Stewart x 1
panther5429 x 1
supra x 3
Clsidxxl x 1
Uchi Deshi x 1
kvl x 1
palmito x 1
davej x 1
crowlie x 1
WhiteBull x2 (and one Dual XO Board, in case ones left)
nedi x 1
gonmar x 1
LuisMCP x 1
chansiukwing x 2
tassosk x 1
NATDBERG x 2 (NOS dual differential 2x D20400 project, NOS 384KHz TDA1541A project later)
Jcastellano x1
Marek x1
SVStube x 3
mksung x 1
JimS x 2
brettlb x 2
 
V

vzs

Member
Joined 2005
LuisMCP said:
...On the other hand I have a question about powering Dual XO and I2S-to-PCM board.
I'm wondering if FIFO 5 VDC output could fed Dual XO and I2S-to-PCM together
Click to expand...
Yes, it can fed both. Have a look here how Ian connected them together: I2S-PCM board fed from Dual XO . You may note he used the Si570 clock board but Dual XO can be connected similarly. Dual XO is fed through the FFC cable (the white one) and I2S-PCM is fed from Dual XO's 2pin power connector.

Regards,
Zsolt
 
Last edited:
LuisMCP

LuisMCP

Member
Joined 2001
vzs said:
Yes, it can fed both. Have a look here how Ian connected them together: I2S-PCM board fed from Dual XO . You may note he used the Si570 clock board but Dual XO can be connected similarly. Dual XO is fed through the FFC cable (the white one) and I2S-PCM is fed from Dual XO's 2pin power connector.

Regards,
Zsolt
Click to expand...

AFAIK, DualXO has not a VDC output. It has J5 for optional VDC Input.
As you said, it seems that Dual XO eats power from FFC cable.
I could fed the I2S-PCM from FIFO 5VDC output !!

Regards !
 
V

vzs

Member
Joined 2005
LuisMCP said:
AFAIK, DualXO has not a VDC output. It has J5 for optional VDC Input.
As you said, it seems that Dual XO eats power from FFC cable.
I could fed the I2S-PCM from FIFO 5VDC output !!

Regards !
Click to expand...
DualXO J5 is connected through FB L11 and the FFC cable to FIFO's J5 - that's why on DualXO "FB L11 has to be removed to use this DC power input. Leave J5 open for normal applications." (from DualXOclockBoardV1.0.pdf)

As you can see on Ian's setup he used DualXO's J5 to power the I2S-PCM and FIFO's J5 to power (one side of) an isolator.
If you don't have an isolator between FIFO and DualXO you can use either FIFO's J5 or DualXO's J5 (since they are basically the same) to power the I2S-PCM.

Regards,
Zsolt
 
iancanada

iancanada

Member
Joined 2009
twitter.com/iancanadaTT
Paid Member
vzs said:
Yes, it can fed both. Have a look here how Ian connected them together: I2S-PCM board fed from Dual XO . You may note he used the Si570 clock board but Dual XO can be connected similarly. Dual XO is fed through the FFC cable (the white one) and I2S-PCM is fed from Dual XO's 2pin power connector.

Regards,
Zsolt
Click to expand...

Thanks Zsolt,

LuisMCP said:
Hi Ian,

I get the I2S-to-PCM board yesterday!
On the other hand I have a question about powering Dual XO and I2S-to-PCM board.
I'm wondering if FIFO 5 VDC output could fed Dual XO and I2S-to-PCM together

Thanks!
Click to expand...

Zsolt gave most good answers, I just add some information about the FIFO power output.

The 5V DC output on FIFO board actually connected to its DC6V input through a passive CLC filter. So, the output current is 99% up to what input power supply you are using.

For testing there is no any problem using FIFO power output. But for real listening, it's highly suggested to use an isolator between FIFO and clock board, and let clock board and PCM board share a same low noise power supply or battery, or power them separately.

Regards,

Ian
 
LuisMCP

LuisMCP

Member
Joined 2001
iancanada said:
Thanks Zsolt,



Zsolt gave most good answers, I just add some information about the FIFO power output.

The 5V DC output on FIFO board actually connected to its DC6V input through a passive CLC filter. So, the output current is 99% up to what input power supply you are using.

For testing there is no any problem using FIFO power output. But for real listening, it's highly suggested to use an isolator between FIFO and clock board, and let clock board and PCM board share a same low noise power supply or battery, or power them separately.

Regards,

Ian
Click to expand...

Ouch! I have an isolator for Amanero, but I don't have :eek: one for FIFO-XO interface !!

must I to suscribe to GBV for a Finished FIFO isolator board 2.5? :deer:

Regards,
Luis.
 
M

Marek

Member
Joined 2003
iancanada said:
352.8 KHz music was playing on both NOS TDA1541A and PCM1704 without any problem. With higher Fs, they sound more analog. I have to say, TDA1541A sounds wonderful. I never thought it can sound like this way, with much higher Fs, it sounds very impressed.

(...)

Unfortunately I can’t find any working software based real time up-sampling apps which can go up to 384 KHz so far for both Mac and PC, any recommendation?
Ian
Click to expand...

Ian,

Do you prefered sound of TDA1541A over PCM1704 in this test?


If you want to upsample to 384kHz you can use SoX Resampler as a foobar plugin - you have to enter '384000' manually to 'Target samplerate'. SoX is one of the best resamplers by the way.
 
P

PET240

Member
Joined 2010
As a thought, jump on the Korg site and download their software for the MR-2000S, if you have a twitter account allgood, then download a dsd file from Blue Coast and resample it to what ever you like. That way you arent recreating samples but sampling direct from a 2.882 or 5.6 MHz original.

Just a thought...

Drew
 
D

dtses

Member
Joined 2009
cheers Ian,

got the new pcm board! many thanks, it looks splendid!

It seems that I need some advice or help with connecting it with Amanero and TDA1541 dac from Oliver.
Need to say that Amanero + TDA alone work fine.

the PCM board and TDA are connected as stated in the manual, jumper is set to JOB.
Amanero and PCM are connected in the following way:

MCLK -> MCLK
BCLK -> SCK
FSCLK -> WS
Data -> Data
Ground -> Ground

all three leds are glowing, so connection should be correct I assume.
DL and DR output pins are soldered directly to TDA chip.
BCK also goes directly to TDA chip.
LLLR is connected through 1N4148 diode as stated for -ecdesigns- latest 3.3.v i2s modification.

Unfortunately on the output of my DAC I get huge distortions, what could it be? Tried to set the board at half speed, no difference.
 

Attachments

  • The Red Baron DAC.pdf
    28.9 KB · Views: 123
  • 33vi2sattenuatormod.jpg
    33vi2sattenuatormod.jpg
    135.6 KB · Views: 419
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom