dac I/V convertion with very low distortion

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Dirk, the spice models that you use in MJE15032c, MJE15033c are from Bob Cordell ?
If they are , is something wrong with the early voltage in those models, it gives better THD than in reality , try to replace with other transistors , and run the simulation again.
Using r10 and r11 with 100m gives good results in simulation but in reality will give bad temperature behavior.
 
I was not happy with the solution of paralleling 4 board for the es9012 / 9018. I have thought in using a different input for this type of dac , it has less than 500mohms of input impedance, it is biasing at 60ma . what you guys think ?

Q1 and Q2 will be bd139/bd140.


meanwhile i am waiting for the components to arrive to try my test boards.
 

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Dirk, the spice models that you use in MJE15032c, MJE15033c are from Bob Cordell ?
If they are , is something wrong with the early voltage in those models, it gives better THD than in reality , try to replace with other transistors , and run the simulation again.
Using r10 and r11 with 100m gives good results in simulation but in reality will give bad temperature behavior.

Oh pish pash. You're acting like I'm actually going to build the thing... Nothing could be further from the truth.

I had this power diamond buffer lying around and I got an idea in the middle of the night, "what if I replace the BUF634 with this thing?". I just thought I'd share it for entertainment. I mean, is anyone really considering putting high current TO-220 transistors into an IV converter!??! I'm not...
 
hi smms
I considered CFP but dismissed.
the CFP itself is 2 stage feedback amplifier, then it has slew rate limit, moreover asymmetrical rise and fall.
I think the charactaristics are not suitable for our application.

I will investigate that. In simulation it gives good results even with 50 ohms input impedance.
One thing is for sure . the bias of the input transistors have to be between 60ma and 100, for increase linearity, we have to use some to126 devices with heatsink or paralleling some pairs of BC327/337.

Using feedback with this type of dac are very tenting :devilr:
 
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No problem with 60-100mA! Plenty of good devices to use. Size TO220 is also possible. For ex the audio drivers
2SC4973+complementary
2SC5171+complementary (very linear, fast)

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I will investigate that. In simulation it gives good results even with 50 ohms input impedance.
One thing is for sure . the bias of the input transistors have to be between 60ma and 100, for increase linearity, we have to use some to126 devices with heatsink or paralleling some pairs of BC327/337.

Using feedback with this type of dac are very tenting :devilr:
 
modern CFA op amp do much better than descrete Q at their appropriate power, V levels

pwr pad CFA op amp like TPA6120 do single digit W, >200 mA, and have ppm audio distortion specs - and work up to 100 MHz - in closed loop

why would anyone today lust after big Q in DAC I/V?
 
I was not happy with the solution of paralleling 4 board for the es9012 / 9018. I have thought in using a different input for this type of dac , it has less than 500mohms of input impedance, it is biasing at 60ma . what you guys think ?

Q1 and Q2 will be bd139/bd140.


meanwhile i am waiting for the components to arrive to try my test boards.

Now you are getting a little lazy, using CFP connected transistors to handle
the high current swing / low OP Z of Sabre. :)

You can get -super- low distortion fron Sabre using very simple open loop
I-V , even without the small + feedback loops, but you must think very
laterally :)

ZZ
 
hi smms
I considered CFP but dismissed.
the CFP itself is 2 stage feedback amplifier, then it has slew rate limit, moreover asymmetrical rise and fall.
I think the charactaristics are not suitable for our application.

WRT CFP, I agree.

In fact I consider the small + feedback loops a violation of the open loop theme
- but that point could be argued forever, life is too short :)
 
I will investigate that. In simulation it gives good results even with 50 ohms input impedance.
One thing is for sure . the bias of the input transistors have to be between 60ma and 100, for increase linearity, we have to use some to126 devices with heatsink or paralleling some pairs of BC327/337.

Using feedback with this type of dac are very tenting :devilr:

Yes, oh yes, soon will come the day when you give up on those wimpy little transistors and embrace your true manhood with a pair of TO-3 monsters.
 
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